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Drivemill July 27th, 2017 12:58 PM

AGL's To Auto Cannon Class
 
Should AGL's me made to auto cannon class?

I imagine AGL's could shoot at low flying helicopters.

Could you imagine helicopters hit by 40mm bombs?

Drivemill July 27th, 2017 01:00 PM

Re: AGL's To Auto Cannon Class
 
How about RPG's too?

These were used anti-helicopter in Somalia.

DRG July 27th, 2017 01:33 PM

Re: AGL's To Auto Cannon Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drivemill (Post 839062)
Should AGL's me made to auto cannon class?

I imagine AGL's could shoot at low flying helicopters.

Could you imagine helicopters hit by 40mm bombs?

Get me examples of them being used against Helos and then **maybe** we'll discuss it further

Suhiir July 27th, 2017 02:29 PM

Re: AGL's To Auto Cannon Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drivemill (Post 839062)
Should AGL's me made to auto cannon class?

I imagine AGL's could shoot at low flying helicopters.

I'd think the projectile velocity of AGLs would make them hitting a helo more then a bit iffy.

I'd have to test, but like infantry small arms I think you can shoot RPGs at stationary helos now. The chance of hitting a moving one would be effectively nil however.

Mobhack July 27th, 2017 05:28 PM

Re: AGL's To Auto Cannon Class
 
AGL go off when they hit the ground - not a timed fuse, so useless vs helos

RPG against helos are fired to take the auto-destruct of that round into account.

Neither will be anti-helo weapons in the game, other than against a landed one (I thing those are targeted as vehicles, but I dont leave them there for long!)

Drivemill July 27th, 2017 08:10 PM

Re: AGL's To Auto Cannon Class
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhEXXgiIVuY

According to this, helos can be brought down by RPG.

Suhiir July 27th, 2017 10:02 PM

Re: AGL's To Auto Cannon Class
 
And during WW II a pilot once shot down a Zero with a .45 while parachuting from his own aircraft.

Yes ... stuff can happen ... very unusual stuff sometimes. But probable is not the same as possible.

Imp July 27th, 2017 10:14 PM

Re: AGL's To Auto Cannon Class
 
Not looked at the video but both would be hopless against helos, yes one got shot down while hovering but the chances are so remote it should not be modeled it would just cause wasted shots.
The game model covers the variety of outcomes pretty well but not the extremes like a meteorite or bird strike

Drivemill July 27th, 2017 10:44 PM

Re: AGL's To Auto Cannon Class
 
An un-armored helicopter hit by 40mm bombs would be spectacular.

Suhiir July 27th, 2017 11:42 PM

Re: AGL's To Auto Cannon Class
 
Only if they were HEDP rounds, normal HE rounds would just explode against the skin if by chance one actually physically hit. And chances are 1 or 2 wouldn't do enough damage to bring a helo down as they're just miniature hand grenades and unlike Hollywood you don't blow up buildings with hand grenades.

An HEDP round would do it's shaped charge thing and penetrate into the internal machinery/electronics thus might hit something vital.


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