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Warhero March 6th, 2017 09:49 AM

Couple questions...
 
1. Has ability of getting dust trails changed somehow sometimes? I remember that if visibility is more than 60 you can have dust trails (I just tried battle as Israel vs. Syria 1973, visibility 64 but no dust trails)...

2. Is it same thing getting air strikes (visibility 64 but still not ability getting any air strike)? Maybe it should be 70+ at this moment?

Sorry if I ask silly questions;)...

Warhero

DRG March 6th, 2017 10:15 AM

Re: Couple questions...
 
1/ we have made no changes to the dust code ( that I am aware of )
2/ I have not had any problem getting airstrikes and I just tried the same combination you had ( but you neglected to tell me the month and that can be critical to dust ) and I got airstrikes with Vis 58

I am looking into the "dust" issue now. I seem to recall seeing it recently but after all these years I tend to tune it out

DRG March 6th, 2017 10:35 AM

Re: Couple questions...
 
I tested both games in August in desert conditions with 87 visibility........there is dust

scorpio_rocks March 6th, 2017 10:38 AM

Re: Couple questions...
 
Quick tests: Dust now only seems to appear at vis >70.

Wasn't it always at Vis >60?

Wdll March 6th, 2017 10:43 AM

Re: Couple questions...
 
If I remember correctly you have to be going over certain speed (move hexes?) before dust trails appear for a vehicle.

DRG March 6th, 2017 10:45 AM

Re: Couple questions...
 
There are no // comments in the code indicating any change has been made since we first added dust to the game and we are consistent on doing so when there is an adjustment to code like that.


EDIT......

But APPARENTLY we did, I was looking in the wrong part of the code

From the GG.....April 2013

Quote:

Map vision algorithm changes have been made. The game is now more likely to produce both high (70-80 hex visibility) sunny days and also some night (1-4 hex) visibility conditions. Rooster trails of dust from moving vehicles in deserts and dry summer conditions etc. have been adjusted upwards by 10 hexes to allow for the higher typical visibility. (Previously the game tended to produce too many low visibility days of 20-40 hexes maximum visibility, i.e. an overcast day).

Warhero March 6th, 2017 11:22 AM

Re: Couple questions...
 
Well I played Israel vs. Syria October 1973. Is october too "cold" or "wet" season for dust trails? Should I try only summer months (June-August)?

Warhero

Warhero March 6th, 2017 11:42 AM

Re: Couple questions...
 
Hmm I tried to start some test battles as Israel vs. Syria June 1967:
1.visibility 70-> no dust trails, air strikes not available.
2. ,, 75-> ,, , ,,
3. ,, 80-> NOW dust trails appear BUT no air strikes available!

Interesting, isn't it?

Warhero March 6th, 2017 11:45 AM

Re: Couple questions...
 
Sorry those ,, marks don't seem to work as they should;)...
I meant 2. visibility 75->no dust trils, air strikes not available
3. visibility 80->Now works BUT no air strikes!

DRG March 6th, 2017 11:47 AM

Re: Couple questions...
 
I'm curious to why you think the only reason airstrikes might not be available is entirely related to visibility.


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