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Zeldor January 29th, 2008 10:32 AM

Re: Bogarus Quick Guide
 
Their army seems to be really pathetic, and you can't make a lot of it with Sloth 3. Against LA Ermor army was useless, PoD was useless too... and my PoD massed afflictions really fast.

Baalz January 29th, 2008 11:03 AM

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Another thing that occurs to me is the fact that there are stealthy commanders with blood vengeance is a reasonably good deterrent to many commander targeting rituals. Seeking arrow right back atcha! That alone makes me think the angels would be better bloodhunters to have scattered around...

vfb January 29th, 2008 11:14 AM

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Drain 2 is pretty much okay for research, since outside the capital you've got the "Master of Names" researchers too, 160 gold for 7 research and possible S3 casters is good. I'm not liking the MR boost from Drain though.

If you've got a Death 5+ PoD, Wither Bones is nice against LA Ermor. Take his armor off first.

Zeldor January 29th, 2008 11:38 AM

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My PoD got afflictions on crossbowmen :/ and then got one fighting militia :|

Meglobob January 29th, 2008 11:53 AM

Re: Bogarus Quick Guide
 
Had a quick game with Bogarus and there troops suck big time!

Indi heavy infantry managed to defeat my massed hordes Voi archers protected by Peshti spearmen 4 turns in a row. Just expanding through indies is hard with Bogarus troops.

I agree with Dr.P, a awake SC is a virtual must. If I was in a MP and Bogarus was my neighbour, guess who I would attack first? Bogarus may become even more a favourite target for an early kill then Ulm. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Not sure about the sloth 3, I think you need resources to recruit your one and only decent troop type Malaia Druzhina. Those guys are decent, them plus a awake SC should keep you safe in the early game until you get your excellent magic and research going.

Mid/late game Bogarus will become a nation of summoned troops backed by powerful magic, with lots of options.

Zeldor January 29th, 2008 12:45 PM

Re: Bogarus Quick Guide
 
But LA gives much smaller gem income, so it may be really hard. Especially against Mictlan and Ermor. And that spells attacking water will work only against R'lyeh, and you would need to really amass them to beat R'lyeh. If they were insanity-resistant it would be nice.

Kristoffer O January 29th, 2008 01:21 PM

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Simargl should not have falchion, and IIRC we lowered patrol to 10 in the last version. Seems to have been neglected by the compilator http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Bogarus have quite good PD I think. Might compensate a bit for early weakness in troops.

B0rsuk January 29th, 2008 01:37 PM

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Quote:

DrPraetorious said:
* Starets. The Star, indeed, the raisin deeter of the entire nation.

Actually, 'starets' means 'elder' . 'ts' shouldn't be pronouced separately. They form a single sound together. Russian alphabet has a letter for this sound. It's pronouced like german 'z', or polish 'c' . Polish language uses latin alphabet, so we'd just write 'starzec'. Plural for 'starets' in bogarussian would be 'startsy'.

Baalz January 29th, 2008 01:56 PM

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I haven't played around too much with blood vengeance, how effective is it at +0? Does this just mean a unit has to make an unmodified MR roll to successfully do damage? Those angels are blessable and can join sabbaths, even without hands I wonder if you could do something interesting with them. They wouldn't need to really attack to do damage with that blood vengeance. With regeneration (bless), iron skin, mistform and fireshield (plus several other buffs if you're feeling extravagant) it seems like they'd be pretty effective at just running up and being attacked. Might not be a terrible way to use your blood hunters when attacked.

Zeldor January 29th, 2008 02:15 PM

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Baalz:

Do they have enough HP to survive long enough for regen to work?


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