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Illuminated One November 27th, 2008 12:35 PM

Transformation questions
 
Ok, so I'm playing around with transformation.

You can change only to normal animals with it, right?
So changing into say a dragon is impossible?

If you get one of the smaller animals like a dragonfly is your mind always damaged? And can that damage be healed or is it just that the brain is to small to contain a human mind?

Nikelaos November 27th, 2008 12:52 PM

Re: Transformation questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Illuminated One (Post 655965)
Ok, so I'm playing around with transformation.

You can change only to normal animals with it, right?
So changing into say a dragon is impossible?

If you get one of the smaller animals like a dragonfly is your mind always damaged? And can that damage be healed or is it just that the brain is to small to contain a human mind?

IIRC you can change into any unit with an animal tag, dragons don't have this tag but i have once been turned into a fire drake which is sorta close if mighty lesser.

occaisionally you're caster may turn into a foul spawn and becom feeble minded, this affliction can be healed like any other.

Endoperez November 27th, 2008 02:14 PM

Re: Transformation questions
 
I think it's just a list of several many animal forms, not all beings with an animal tag. You won't get monkey forms, as an example (except Winged Monkey).

Trumanator November 27th, 2008 02:27 PM

Re: Transformation questions
 
The greater question as far as I'm concerned is is it worth it?

Tyrant November 27th, 2008 02:42 PM

Re: Transformation questions
 
Some of the mythological foul-spawn types are on the list for sure- i remember Chimeras, and i think Coakatrice as well. You can heal the feeble mind affliction if that happens, but it's difficult.

Is it worth it? Not in a general sense, but perhaps situationally. It's what i call a "toolkit spell." MA Man, for instance, might want to roll the dice on a few Crones to try to get some mages that have more hit point or a faster move rate. I've also heard people talk about using it on an immobile pretender chassis.

Gandalf Parker November 27th, 2008 02:45 PM

Re: Transformation questions
 
Ive found some of the changes to be very useful.
Particularly when I change the Naiads who cannot leave their home province.

Changing a weak mage into a better armored unit that can lead more troops and still does the same magic is rarely a waste as far as I am concerned.

Illuminated One November 27th, 2008 03:12 PM

Re: Transformation questions
 
Yeah, that was a bit along my thinking. If you have strong but vulnerable mages and the enemy has fliers why not have a mage in bear form?
And although it's probably a waste of gems I have the mad idea to make the most frightening dragonfly ever. :D

What does the winged monkey you get have?
Is it the same as in the spell winged monkeys?

Dectilon November 27th, 2008 03:57 PM

Re: Transformation questions
 
Also, some underwater mages that get their magic nerfed when ashore regains their full power when transformed. The only problem is if you're using boosters other than rings and the like : /

Endoperez November 27th, 2008 04:14 PM

Re: Transformation questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Illuminated One (Post 655992)
What does the winged monkey you get have?
Is it the same as in the spell winged monkeys?

Yes. It has full or almost full stats IIRC, so it's one of the better results. It's small and very weak, though.

Nikelaos November 27th, 2008 04:32 PM

Re: Transformation questions
 
IIRC it also gives you a 'young' version of the animal so nature mages with old age could make good use of it. You could perhaps use it as a way to avoid upkeep costs aswell though it is costy on the gems.


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