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zovs66 June 25th, 2018 08:31 AM

Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
So while going through some of my archives I found these 54 scenarios that I could not find in MBT.

I used ScenHack to first look for the files and when I could not fine them I then re-numbered them to 420-474, and then ran them through ScenHack, and used that to fix the errors in the OOB's. I also added some text at the end and looked them over when I loaded them up in the editor/game.

As far as I can tell they are fine.

Any feedback is welcomed.

EDIT: Removed attachments as they have been updated and placed into the 2019 patch. 3/28/2019

scorpio_rocks June 25th, 2018 02:14 PM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
Firefight in Gaza Scenario #424


Down and dirty little knife fight - a couple of issues:
1. VP hexes off map. They need moving (put on top of others) PLO tends to wonder off rather than fight...

2. VP on map have value of 0?
3. The PLO are hugely out pointed - You could double the PLO and the Légion étrangère would still win easily.
4. a couple of minor typos in the text file (French DELAY not Defend, title missing T)

zovs66 June 25th, 2018 05:49 PM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
Scorpio Rocks,

Thanks for the feedback, I adjusted the VP, and added a few more PLO forces. I am on turn 8, its a bit more tougher, let me know if it needs more adjustment. I added 2 more snipers, some suicide bombers and a smg platoon. Added fix to first post.

scorpio_rocks June 26th, 2018 03:57 AM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
Much better matey!

I still got a DV despite a suicide bomber calmly walking unseen into my command post taking my A0 legionaries and a VBL off to paradise with him!
The VP now make the game work.


I will have a go at some of the others later today - some strange looking ones in the mix including at least one with 1 man units...

scorpio_rocks June 26th, 2018 10:08 AM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
"War Torn" Scenario #455


My guess is that some of the design decisions made originally came from the novel...


This one has quite a few problems from VPs off map, through some weird map choices ("North/South" orientation, layout, terrain, etc) and force choices (SAS in Chinooks, MBTs, mobile mortars, lots of Ammo dumps/vehicles for AI side, etc) to type of scenario - Meeting would probably work better as Taliban delay / UK advance.


I don't think this one is a quick fix...


I MAY take a look at redoing it, but in doing so will probably break the link to the book by removing stuff like the SAS, etc (I haven't read the novel). I guess we need to decide whether the book link is something we need to retain or whether we would prefer a more generic (but a little more realistic) scenario

zovs66 June 26th, 2018 10:13 AM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
scorpio rocks,

For War Torn (455) go for it. There are 54 of these things and if it is deemed an okay scenario and someone wants to teak it that is fine by me. Glad the other works.

Currently I am in the process of making some scenario conversions for SPWW2 from old/new board war games. So feel free to edit this one, if there are some minor fixes I can do then that is not a problem. Have not read the novel.

scorpio_rocks June 26th, 2018 07:14 PM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
"One at a Time" Scenario #441


A VERY (for me at least!) tough little scenario - I don't think it works due to the forces being single man units (or single weapon teams) for the most part - I'm not sure that SP is the right engine/game for such a small scale skirmish!


Better minds than mine would be needed to decide whether this scenario has a place in the game or whether it can be salvaged and balanced with "normal" sized units.

DRG June 26th, 2018 09:04 PM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
I vaguely recall someone pushed that idea years ago ...this may have been an experiment and why it never made it to the game because as you point out this isn't what SP is designed to simulate. So before they go into the game I will poll to see if any just don't work well

lukerduker123 June 27th, 2018 04:41 AM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
Nothing much to add here. I know Lima 85 (438) is in the game. Other than that, holy moly, a Valley of Tears level?! I know how I'm spending my weekend.

DRG June 27th, 2018 05:56 AM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
I have not extracted these for two reasons......one they are a WIP and I have many other things on my plate ATM...when the dust finally settles and any final corrections made then I will DL the final set and take a look at them BUT.......if this set does indeed have a Lima 85 as scenario 438 then you'll need to check how it compares to the existing Lima 85 that is already in slot 170.....they may be different versions of the same battle......or the same scenario


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