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Wdll July 15th, 2018 12:34 PM

Re: Suggestion regarding artillery
 
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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 842623)
Another thing that seems to be overlooked is who controls ( called ) a arty mission when you click a FOO ( or command unit ) the ones that FOO ( or command unit ) called show in green


http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...1&d=1531658829

and

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...1&d=1531658887

so when you pick a FOO and go to the bombardment menu it will show which one that FOO is responsible for and if you don't like his LOS simply pick a FOO that has better LOS and adjust the fire and then THAT new FOO is the controller

The "problem" is....the game only tells you who is controlling it when you enter the bombard menu and then it's whatever command unit you selected so he's the controller if you adjust fire but there is no way to know which of the FOO's you might have on map are the ones controlling a fire mission NOW

I see your point but I see Andy's as well....if you have a fire mission and you have a FOO in a better position to observe it select him and then make an adjustment and then that FOO is your controller...if you don't make an adjustment then it's the original observer who still controls it but the missing info is who that is.....Andy's POV is it does not matter who controls it before you adjust fire only that you did adjust fire with the observer in the best position and now he's the controller for that battery fire mission

*(where I say observer I mean any unit spotting for the artillery)

Yes it is possible to work around it, but it is not convenient. You have to keep going back and forth into the bombardment screen and locating the appropriate (best LOS) observer/spotter etc. If you click on the "wrong" artillery while you are in the bombardment screen from the "wrong" observer, you have now given orders to the artillery from that observer. So you have to get out of the bombardment screen, find the right observer for the artillery you have clicked on by accident, go back to the bombardment screen and reassign the observer to the artillery you never planned to change observer in the first place. Something that could be done in 5 seconds without errors needs to take a min. (time taken out of my *** but you get my point :p )

*ps love your photo editing skills :p

DRG July 15th, 2018 12:50 PM

Re: Suggestion regarding artillery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wdll (Post 842627)
If you click on the "wrong" artillery while you are in the bombardment screen from the "wrong" observer, you have now given orders to the artillery from that observer. So you have to get out of the bombardment screen, find the right observer for the artillery you have clicked on by accident, go back to the bombardment screen and reassign the observer to the artillery you never planned to change observer in the first place.

NO......

Simply clicking on a unit does NOT re-assign it to the new obsever.....you have to shift the target for it to change from the original. As long as the target hex does not change neither does the observer

The problem remains that you have no way to check that but the observer does not change until a new observer takes control by shifting fire

DRG July 15th, 2018 12:54 PM

Re: Suggestion regarding artillery
 
.......Andy already told you that a few posts back

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The game doesn't care which observer adjusts the fire, other than the initial one (for time of arrival) and LOS when the shells fall. The mission isn't "owned" by whatever observer called the shoot, just whichever one you decided to do the last adjust with is allocated as the last one to spot it, and hence any LOS issue is from him.
The key word you missed is " ADJUST" ( not just click on ......he has to adjust the fire to take control )

Wdll July 15th, 2018 01:17 PM

Re: Suggestion regarding artillery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 842630)
.......Andy already told you that a few posts back

Quote:

The game doesn't care which observer adjusts the fire, other than the initial one (for time of arrival) and LOS when the shells fall. The mission isn't "owned" by whatever observer called the shoot, just whichever one you decided to do the last adjust with is allocated as the last one to spot it, and hence any LOS issue is from him.
The key word you missed is " ADJUST" ( not just click on ......he has to adjust the fire to take control )

Indeed.
This definitely helps a lot.
Not perfect but pretty good.
Thanks and sorry to Andy for missing that.


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