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Karagin June 2nd, 2020 06:27 PM

Possible bug maybe
 
Okay, I am running a Green vs South African battle, May 1973 and every time I enter a GRAY rough hex I get asked by the game do I want to enter this hex.

I have upgraded to the newest patch, so I ruled that out. The map is a custom map but made in (by) the current version of the game.

If this has already come up, sorry, I have just now noticed it. Been fixing a couple of OOBs I am trying to salvage from older versions.

Thanks,
Eric

Mobhack June 2nd, 2020 06:44 PM

Re: Possible bug maybe
 
That was a feature introduced in v11.01 of 2017, to stop users inadvertantly getting thier vehicles immobilised. Also appears if you try to crash through a building.

Now, if it is not a vehicle that is generating the message - that may be a bug.

DRG June 2nd, 2020 06:54 PM

Re: Possible bug maybe
 
ONLY a "bug" if it's an infantry unit and if it is, get a save and post it

Karagin June 2nd, 2020 10:38 PM

Re: Possible bug maybe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobhack (Post 847672)
That was a feature introduced in v11.01 of 2017, to stop users inadvertantly getting thier vehicles immobilised. Also appears if you try to crash through a building.

Now, if it is not a vehicle that is generating the message - that may be a bug.

Yet a stream will immobilize everything short of aircraft and infantry. Even vehicles that have the amphibious capability. But thank you for the information.

Karagin June 2nd, 2020 10:39 PM

Re: Possible bug maybe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 847673)
ONLY a "bug" if it's an infantry unit and if it is, get a save and post it

If I get it for infantry I will let you guys know.

DRG June 3rd, 2020 06:22 AM

Re: Possible bug maybe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karagin (Post 847674)
Yet a stream will immobilize everything short of aircraft and infantry. Even vehicles that have the amphibious capability. But thank you for the information.

Streams can immobilize even amphibious vehicles because it's not the stream that is considered the immobilizer..... it's the soft ground in an around the stream. That's why Fords are revealed on the map as a relatively safe place to get across streams

Suhiir June 3rd, 2020 11:30 AM

Re: Possible bug maybe
 
Remembers once using a tank to pull out a 6x6 truck that got stuck in a dry stream bed while trying to pull free a 4x4 jeep.

Karagin June 3rd, 2020 06:23 PM

Re: Possible bug maybe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Suhiir (Post 847677)
Remembers once using a tank to pull out a 6x6 truck that got stuck in a dry stream bed while trying to pull free a 4x4 jeep.

That sounds like the other drivers had no idea HOW to use their vehicles. Many times as an 88M I have had to train people on the proper use of their vehicle, and I can say that I have never gotten stuck unless the vehicle was buried in the mud and even then I know how to use the truck to get off it if that fails, go get the M88 to come to pull me out.

Imp June 3rd, 2020 07:50 PM

Re: Possible bug maybe
 
Yet a stream will immobilize everything short of aircraft and infantry. Even vehicles that have the amphibious capability. But thank you for the information.

Streams are easy to spot you should not need a warning not to enter it by mistake.

Karagin June 4th, 2020 09:53 AM

Re: Possible bug maybe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Imp (Post 847683)
Yet a stream will immobilize everything short of aircraft and infantry. Even vehicles that have the amphibious capability. But thank you for the information.

Streams are easy to spot you should not need a warning not to enter it by mistake.

Let's see, no bridge or ford and you need to get across it...yeah so am I suppose to wish the vehicles to the other side with Jedi force powers?

I get the idea of a stream causing so issues, SOME, but the rate of chance on how often a vehicle is stuck in them is insanely high. And let's define a stream. To me, a stream is something that can be crossed easily because at most it's only knee-deep. Now are the "streams" on the map creeks? Those are normally wider and deeper, so which is it?

And back to the pointed out item, yes, you can see them, but if you didn't buy airmobile forces then you are going to have to cross them at someone point and on an average six vehicles will get stuck, or least that has been my count so far.

It's like the default to the road tiles by vehicles near them, you need to move up three hexes to stay in a tree line...and the vehicle moves out on the road and dies because the game code wants to put vehicles on road to move them. Don't believe me, then open a map, pick your stuff, and then move near a road, then pick a hex say 5 away from you and watch the vehicle go towards to road to get there when it could have gone straight to the target hex and avoided the return or OP fire of the enemy.


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