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DRG September 10th, 2005 10:37 PM

Re: Playtesting WinSPMBT patch
 
And just how did you manage to see these BTR's dug in 50 - 59 hexes away?? Just what was the map like? Maybe a save game would be useful?

Don

DRG September 10th, 2005 10:48 PM

Re: Playtesting WinSPMBT patch
 
Ahhhh but BTR-152k's are in service in th Iraqi army in 2004. Are we talking about Iraq in 2004 Listy??

Ya see what I mean about "information" and how useful it is?

Don

DRG September 10th, 2005 11:06 PM

Re: Playtesting WinSPMBT patch
 
Ahhh.... these were attack helos weren't they?? And it's the first turn and they havne't fired or been fired at and they are not moving

And if you try the same thing again only this time only kill half you can kill the other half on turn 2 for all the reasons listed above. I just did.

Don

Listy September 10th, 2005 11:56 PM

Re: Playtesting WinSPMBT patch
 
LOL sorry, good point.

It was UK Vs Syira in 2008 (Cam't quite remember the month.

An over flight of UAV's spotted them.

8 Hellfires later from WAH-64's and we have 8 hits...

Listy September 12th, 2005 12:48 AM

Re: Playtesting WinSPMBT patch
 
OOB mistake:
Japan 7/2005, "Attack Helo" formations have no units in it.

Edit:
Problem is this:
Unit 336 ends on 3/2005.

Units 363 and 364 start on 1/2006.

Listy September 12th, 2005 01:53 AM

Re: Playtesting WinSPMBT patch
 
1 Attachment(s)
Israel Vs PLO 2012ish, October I think.

1. On the Israel buy list it has 3 engineer APC's under infantry.

2. Something odd. As I was just messing around to see how effective cluster weapons are I hit a massive AI controlled clump of PLO guys, and saw how effective cluster weapons now are.. However on the Israeli turn 3-4 units had been spotted despite not moving or shooting. They where pinned in LOS of other units hand had taken kills from the arty.

The attachment has 3 saved games in it.
#14: before the strikes.
#15 when I first noticed the bug, however you can't ID the units that are spotted.
#16: after another set of strikes, here's a list of spotted units.
Malita support squad (Unit D1) Is spotted, Yet AL Aqsa Group (BO2) on the same hex is not spotted.
Unit R0 is spotted as well.

DRG September 12th, 2005 11:25 AM

Re: Playtesting WinSPMBT patch
 
Quote:

Listy said:
OOB mistake:
Japan 7/2005, "Attack Helo" formations have no units in it.

Edit:
Problem is this:
Unit 336 ends on 3/2005.

Units 363 and 364 start on 1/2006.


Thank you. Now fixed. There was an ealier one as well. A gap between 4/2000 and 1/2001

Don

Double_Deuce September 12th, 2005 01:22 PM

Re: Playtesting WinSPMBT patch
 
Don and Andy! Do you have enough testers?

Reason I ask is I only see a few posts here and since I have been tied down with RL issues, I hope I'm not delaying the progress too much. The changes you have implemented are 1st rate and I hope they can be as fully tested as possible before release.

DRG September 12th, 2005 02:50 PM

Re: Playtesting WinSPMBT patch
 
Quote:

Listy said:
Israel Vs PLO 2012ish, October I think.

1. On the Israel buy list it has 3 engineer APC's under infantry.

2. Something odd. As I was just messing around to see how effective cluster weapons are I hit a massive AI controlled clump of PLO guys, and saw how effective cluster weapons now are.. However on the Israeli turn 3-4 units had been spotted despite not moving or shooting. They where pinned in LOS of other units hand had taken kills from the arty.

The attachment has 3 saved games in it.
#14: before the strikes.
#15 when I first noticed the bug, however you can't ID the units that are spotted.
#16: after another set of strikes, here's a list of spotted units.
Malita support squad (Unit D1) Is spotted, Yet AL Aqsa Group (BO2) on the same hex is not spotted.
Unit R0 is spotted as well.

I loaded save 15 and watched what happened from the Palestinian perspective then the game switched to the Israeli side and I can see two PLO units. One Milita support with one man and one with three. ONe shows pinned and one shows moving and both can be seen by Merkava unit C0, C1 and C2. B0 and B1 can see the three man unit. That's normal behaviour. They were spotted by one of the tanks after the barrage
Don

DRG September 12th, 2005 02:52 PM

Re: Playtesting WinSPMBT patch
 
Quote:

Double_Deuce said:
Don and Andy! Do you have enough testers?

Reason I ask is I only see a few posts here and since I have been tied down with RL issues, I hope I'm not delaying the progress too much. The changes you have implemented are 1st rate and I hope they can be as fully tested as possible before release.


The more people we have looking at this the less chance of finding something big and ugly lurking someplace two days after the patch is released so any further input is welcome

Don


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