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zovs66 August 28th, 2018 08:16 PM

Scenario Question - Draw
So I have been designing and playtesting some of my next batch of scenarios. Some are designed hard on purpose. I have one that is (for me at least) not too hard, but I think on first playing of it, most players will only get a draw (against the AI). I have some that you win just with a MV.

Personally I feel that if a player always gets a DV, its not that much of a challenge.

Was wondering others thoughts on this concept.

DRG August 28th, 2018 08:58 PM

Re: Scenario Question - Draw
Draws are perfectly acceptable to me. DV's should not be expected or inevitable especially if it's a historical result. I have one for the next release that if you get a draw you'll be doing well.

zovs66 August 28th, 2018 09:09 PM

Re: Scenario Question - Draw
Thanks, I'll quit over thinking things. I have the first batch of 10 almost done. Working on the next set as we speak. Designing is just about as fun as playing them. lol

DRG August 28th, 2018 09:17 PM

Re: Scenario Question - Draw
A tough scenario should challenge a player to try it again to get a better result. Sometimes the second time though can be predictable but a really good one challenges in different ways each time through

Imp August 30th, 2018 06:16 PM

Re: Scenario Question - Draw
Hard ones are generally better, those and the ones that have a fun factor are the ones you play more than once. Victory is only sweet if you had to earn it but a tough fight is nearly always good no mater the outcome.

RetLT September 4th, 2018 10:42 PM

Re: Scenario Question - Draw
The wife and kids are back to school so I have the house (and computer) to myself again.

I am looking forward to playing these when they are ready.

zovs66 September 5th, 2018 07:40 AM

Re: Scenario Question - Draw
Thanks RetLT, I have 10 almost ready and 8 I am still fiddling with (plan on converting over 200, lol, but that is going to take a while, lol).

To the point of playtesting these not sure if I need another set of eyes/hands on them or just keep plugging away at them. The easiest place to place them is in the forums.

I have a couple that use timed objectives (if you have the CD version) and making sure those are balanced it a bit tricky. Also, had one that I expanded and still need to make it harder.

zovs66 September 5th, 2018 10:25 AM

Re: Scenario Question - Draw

Originally Posted by RetLT (Post 843257)
The wife and kids are back to school so I have the house (and computer) to myself again.

I am looking forward to playing these when they are ready.

I just thought of this. If your interested in playtesting these let me know. I have most of them balanced out, and have played them quite a bit so I know in the back of my mind where I hide stuff or deployed stuff. I don't like it when I create one of these and it's a DV with little challenge, and so I have tried to make them achieve the historical results and yet be a challenge. In some cases a draw is good as the historical counterpart at others you may fall below what happened historically.

In the one I have been tweaking that involves a M26 and Tiger, I think I have finally gotten it balanced (both human and vs. AI), but you never know.

Also, the Japanese are nice and tough against green US squads lol.

zovs66 September 5th, 2018 10:38 AM

Re: Scenario Question - Draw
As it stands I have 12 that I am happy with, 8 need final playtesting and 210 in planning/development (i.e. scenario conversions from a board game), obvious one step at a time...

RetLT September 5th, 2018 09:50 PM

Re: Scenario Question - Draw
I don't have the CD version (I really should buy it after all these years) but I will gladly play test anything you have.

I am a big fan of amphibious landings and air drops. The confusion and logistics involved make them more challenging.

I also like scenarios involving unusual battle pairings. US v German and Russian v German are a dime a dozen. US v Vichy French, Italy v France or Japan v Russia are more fun.

Very few scenarios have covered Operation Varsity if you are looking at ideas for new scenarios. A campaign involving the Jewish brigade or the Spanish Blue Division would be fun too.

zovs66 September 5th, 2018 10:02 PM

Re: Scenario Question - Draw
I have some of those in the works (Japanese Paradrop, Japanese amph assault, US air drop, German Glider landings, Canadian amph assault, US/Canada/GB and German river assaults, some France vs Japan, and a few off the cuff Partisan ones that should be fun, some stuff in Korea, and Russia vs. Japan, oh and couple of Spanish Civil War and I do have a series of 8 with the Spanish Blue I want to do), plus the usually German vs US, GB, Russia, Free France, Early war stuff too (some Dutch ones). All in time.

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