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Aku July 24th, 2004 06:27 AM

MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 
This is for the 2nd game with the group from the JDScherrey newbie game and any other new players to dominions if everyone from the first game do not transfer over.

Ok Klatu will be hosting the game.

So far we have myself, Klatu, Drool, Pickles(maybe), Alexi(new person, can be our 8th spot since JDScherrey went MIA).

Still need to hear from Tannath, Boron, and Starwarsluke.

Need suggestions for settings and map. We can throw around suggestions for like the week and start this game next weekend.

The 24 hour quickhost we are doing now works good also.

Also here were my suggestions, pasted from the other thread.

for game settings...norfleet recommended when we started our current game to play karan...you guys want to give it a try?

if we play karan there were 3 files...do we dl them all?

also for events they happen like every turn on common but on rare they still happen a lot but it isnt bad...so i recommend the 2nd game for events to be on rare

also for magic sites...how about at least 50 this time?

indep strength i guess 6 or 9 i dunno, 7 indep like we have now just seemed odd

world richness...either normal or rich...no clue on that one

put hof on 15 and renaming allowed

these are just suggestions to get the ball rolling

for my nation i would like to try out abysia if tannath isnt using them again

Pickles July 24th, 2004 08:09 AM

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 
Ok Klatu will be hosting the game.

"The 24 hour quickhost we are doing now works good also. "

Agreed

"for game settings...norfleet recommended when we started our current game to play karan...you guys want to give it a try?"

Fine - I have now done a few karan games (well started them) & it is nice.

"if we play karan there were 3 files...do we dl them all?"

? Dunno. I will try to check

"also for events they happen like every turn on common but on rare they still happen a lot but it isnt bad...so I recommend the 2nd game for events to be on rare"

Means that the balance is different The trade off between luck/misfortune seems OK on common events therefore would be pro misfortune on uncommon ones.(expect me to take luck -3).
I do not think this is a good idea but can live with it.

"also for magic sites...how about at least 50 this time?"

50 gives A LOT more sites than 40 and even more than the 35 we have (I have not found any in that game). This effects balance too of course but probably not as much. I vote for 50 cos I like rainbow site hunters! (but not higher - try it SP & see)

"indep strength I guess 6 or 9 i dunno, 7 indep
like we have now just seemed odd"

I think at least 6 is a good rule so do not have an opinion. It once again might effect choice of nation. R'lyeh frex is less fun on 9 than 6 as it cannot cherry pick who to attack as easily as land powers.

"world richness...either normal or rich...no clue on that one"

Normal - I am rather conservative rich gives far more money and pickles the broken record says this messes up balance. Still I only fiddled with it one time & have no idea how it messes up balance so could live with it.

"put hof on 15 and renaming allowed"

Agreed

"for my nation I would like to try out abysia"

I will hold off until I see the set up - there are many I am happy to try.

Hm I do not seem to sound like a newby (like Boron http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ). I have still not got much proper (post turn 20 MP experience) but still if this is a problem I will drop out.

Pickles

Aku July 24th, 2004 08:21 AM

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 
No reason for you to drop out pickles. I am sure some of us have played a lot more sp than others. Main thing here is our mp experience. And if Tannath, Boron, and Starwarsluke play also then we have our 8 players with the new person Alexi. Will be the same group with one new person.

The events common/rare setting I do not care either way. Either setting is fine by me so I guess we will leave it to what the majority want it geared towards.

Indep strength I say to just put it at a 6.

For the magic sites I put a vote for 50.

For world richness lets just keep it on normal because it looks like all mp games keep it that way.

Everyone post your suggestions...nothing is set in stone.

[ July 24, 2004, 07:23: Message edited by: Aku ]

Lex July 24th, 2004 08:39 AM

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 
i've only been playing single player (trying to get a feel for what race(s) I like), and I just noticed the indep strength was always at 3.. does that mean in MP games start off slower if we double that to 6? although i guess it gives more advantage to 'holding onto' your provinces, since you worked so hard to get them all.

Although I'm fairly indifferent to the settings. It comes down to "preferences", but you gotta have played the game alot before you developed any preference at all.

Aku July 24th, 2004 08:50 AM

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 
Well having indep at like 6 you can sometimes use strong indeps as a layer from the enemy. Basically indep 3 is too much of a push over and don't attack on the first turn like you can do with indep 3 because you dont want a catastrophic defeat that hurts your early game.

I personally like higher indep strength because it makes it more fun because on indep 3 they may as well be empty provinces lol. It is like how Halo was a 100 times better and more fun on legendary mode than it was on the easier difficulties.

Pickles July 24th, 2004 09:15 AM

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 
"i've only been playing single player (trying to get a feel for what race(s) I like), and I just noticed the indep strength was always at 3.. does that mean in MP games start off slower if we double that to 6? although i guess it gives more advantage to 'holding onto' your provinces, since you worked so hard to get them all."

SP is easier with higher indep strength (and a better game too). The AI has more difficulty taking down the provinces so it takes longer to turn into a dogfight. I would recommend you use 6+ indeps on SP. In MP everyone always use 6 plus indeps too so it is good practice.

I guess MP games do start off slower - first attacking turn 3 - 6 but it is ages since I used indeps less than 6 so I am used to that now.

Pickles

PS Aku you are in the US so are you like nocturnal or something?

[ July 24, 2004, 08:16: Message edited by: Pickles ]

Aikamun July 24th, 2004 10:29 AM

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 
I would like to sign up if you have room for another newbie. Zero mp games under my belt. If I am included, would prefer default game settings and Indep 7.

Thank you,
Aikamun

Edit after player list posted: Looks like my request was ignored. Not my first bad experience trying to get into Dom2 MP (Bad Experiences 3; Good 0). I think I will stick to sp from now on, even if the AI is terrible. SP offers much more assured playing time. No hasta manana here.

[ July 24, 2004, 21:59: Message edited by: Aikamun ]

Aku July 24th, 2004 11:14 AM

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 
Well I am more of a night person. I am always up at different hours all the time.

If everyone is ok with the map Karan isnt it a 8-10 player map from what I read? Aikamun we just need to get confirmation from 3 players to see if they are playing. If Karan is a 8-10 player map I am sure we can fit you in as a 9th.

Boron July 24th, 2004 12:35 PM

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 
i of course participate http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Boron July 24th, 2004 12:38 PM

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 
karan is nice
cradle of zen is a nice map too .
the 3rd one which comes to my mind is the inland map .
i would vote for karan too .

i would like to take pythium this time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif


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