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Bummer_Duck October 7th, 2005 07:46 PM

And another thing...
 
So, here I am minding my own biz, when these damn hero's decide to take one of my provinces. Since I'm playing Mictlan, and I can cast Hellbind heart from my Heliophagus' (or somthing like that). I figure I'll try it out, since I have never used it and I have a couple near by. I end up getting Fadmargast.

Later now, I am setting up for an attack on another player and notice that Fadmargast was scripted to "Attack Commanders". I'd never seen that command before, and thought I'd check it out. Low and behold, it's not an "option", and unless you leave Fadmargast's original orders intact, it goes away. Huh! Well, that certainly explains the peculiar behavior of some heros going directly after my commanders!

Buhahahaha!!! Guess who gets all my unique items! :-) Can you say Mage Bane? I knew you could.

NTJedi October 7th, 2005 07:49 PM

Re: And another thing...
 
I've never seen this in Dominions_2... has anyone else?

shovah October 7th, 2005 07:50 PM

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which is that heroe? you could always try an eye of aiming and the feebleminding bow. and use ctrl 1 and his order and try to give it to other commanders ( would rock with ryleh

Bummer_Duck October 7th, 2005 07:56 PM

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Quote:

shovah said:
which is that heroe? you could always try an eye of aiming and the feebleminding bow. and use ctrl 1 and his order and try to give it to other commanders ( would rock with ryleh

OMG! That works! Thank you gods of DominionsII! I never thought to try it! Wow...

Bummer_Duck October 7th, 2005 08:03 PM

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OK...I liked this on one guy, but now I am thinking that if you can copy these orders, then this should be a bug fix. I mean, it wasn't included in the game for a reason. Might be a tad unbalancing to suddenly have the ablitity to nuke all your opponets commanders.

NTJedi October 7th, 2005 08:04 PM

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What about using the CTRL keys to save his battle command... that should allow you to give it to other commanders.

Arralen October 7th, 2005 08:20 PM

Re: And another thing...
 
This is known for quite some time: "Fire/Attack Commanders" was removed from the code early in the development process of Dom2 - yes, a big part of it's code comes from Dom1.

But this option was only removed for the player - the AI still can use this order. This is to make it a little bit more dangerous in battle: While the player can adjust the placement of his troops to (known) enemy threats, the AI cannot. So it at least gets a direct shot at enemy commanders, something a player may achieve (indirectly) with a clever combination of placement and orders.

shovah October 8th, 2005 05:31 AM

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NTJedi said:

What about using the CTRL keys to save his battle command... that should allow you to give it to other commanders.

beat you to saying it :p

Wish October 8th, 2005 02:05 PM

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but when you helbind heart doesn't he come back as a minion not a commander, and stacked in the province, without any orders?? I know enslave mind works that way...

quantum_mechani October 8th, 2005 02:09 PM

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Wish_For_Blood_Slaves said:
but when you helbind heart doesn't he come back as a minion not a commander, and stacked in the province, without any orders?? I know enslave mind works that way...

Enslave mind does, charm and hellbind do not.


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