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Anthony_Scott January 16th, 2009 09:35 PM

Mexico Drug War becoming fact
 
It is one of my favourite campaigns and I have not even finished it yet. this news story grabbed my attention about a vigilante group in Juarez threatening to kill a criminal every 24 hours until order is restored:

www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci_11463340?_requestid=2679576

And this report from United States Joint Forces Command spells it out all too clearly:

http://www.jfcom.mil/newslink/storya...08/JOE2008.pdf

My point is that even our humble little game can predict the future sometimes.

Semper Fi, Carry On

Skirmisher January 17th, 2009 12:04 AM

Re: Mexico Drug War becoming fact
 
I wonder what actual combat units might be sent to mexico eventually?

And when? how long should they wait,it's pretty bad right now.

Double_Deuce January 17th, 2009 07:30 PM

Re: Mexico Drug War becoming fact
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony_Scott (Post 667654)
It is one of my favourite campaigns and I have not even finished it yet. this news story grabbed my attention about a vigilante group in Juarez threatening to kill a criminal every 24 hours until order is restored:

www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci_11463340?_requestid=2679576

And this report from United States Joint Forces Command spells it out all too clearly:

http://www.jfcom.mil/newslink/storya...08/JOE2008.pdf

My point is that even our humble little game can predict the future sometimes.

Semper Fi, Carry On

Hmmm, maybe I should stop designing any more campaigns. :doh: :D

Anthony_Scott January 17th, 2009 11:09 PM

Re: Mexico Drug War becoming fact
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skirmisher (Post 667687)
I wonder what actual combat units might be sent to mexico eventually?

And when? how long should they wait,it's pretty bad right now.

Well, there are many parallels to the drug war in Columbia and the one in Mexico but the main differance is that Columbia had a government that wanted to be stable, willing to confront corruption at all levels and had the the overt, and sometimes covert assistance of the US government. Columbia also had the stamina to go the long haul, facing a decades-long war not only form the communists but from the cartels.

Mexico on the other hand has no such assistance that we know of and the government itself is so utterly corrupt that any official must be regarded as untrustworthy. The only truly clean law enforcement branch is their equivalent to the FBI. Mexico does not have the legs so to speak to fight this sort of war due to rampant corruption and an inadequate police infrastructure. All those billions in remittances and Mexico still can't finish off the rebels in Chiapas let alone defeat the cartels.

Militarily the scope of operations would be very much like a COIN operation with a dependance on small semi-independant units with the will to do the dirty work that COIN frequently entails and I am certain that our new administration doesn't have them.

There would be a place for heavy maneuver units and for Stryker brigades but only if the intelligence is that good. The history of our neighbour to the south is a very sad one and my sympathy as always lies with the people.

Semper Fi, Carry On

Anthony_Scott January 19th, 2009 11:51 AM

Re: Mexico Drug War becoming fact
 
After further research, I have determined that the six main border provinces of Mexico are at or near total collapse due to the open war between the cartels and the Federales. Also, local cops are too terrified with dodging bullets and bombs to actually do real police work, like traffic stops and rape investigations.

Looks like the overall collapse is well underway and playing the campaign again has made me even more sad for my friends south of the border.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty434.htm

Semper Fi, Carry On

Double_Deuce February 16th, 2009 02:53 PM

Re: Mexico Drug War becoming fact
 
And the saga continues although this appears to be in the southern part of Mexico:

Mexico police officer, 10 members of his family slain

I'm thinking, bringing the troops home from Iraq in the next 6-12 months might be a good idea.

S.R. Krol February 16th, 2009 08:13 PM

Re: Mexico Drug War becoming fact
 
There was a Harold Coyle novel I read years ago that had the US intervening in Mexico, "Trial By Fire". Looks like it's a good time to reread it.

Double_Deuce February 18th, 2009 05:16 AM

Re: Mexico Drug War becoming fact
 
Its sad when the military sent to protect the people are being told to get out.

Juarez, El Paso border crossings closed by protesters Tuesday afternoon

I wonder how much of this was organized by the gangs and how much is real feeling about the military? From what I hear the military is not much better than the gangs.

Anthony_Scott February 18th, 2009 06:37 PM

Re: Mexico Drug War becoming fact
 
Excellent Stratfor article detailing many aspects of the current instability in Mexico:

http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20090...xico_third_war

very informative, good ideas for individual scenarios. Still also very depressing.

Semper Fi, Carry On

Anthony_Scott February 18th, 2009 09:44 PM

Re: Mexico Drug War becoming fact
 
And now it is open war between Federales, the Army and the narcos in Reynosa, Tamaulipas, Mexico!

http://m3report.wordpress.com/2009/0...ulipas-mexico/

Gods help the innocents caught between the three!:eek::(

Semper Fi, Carry On


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