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EOT November 5th, 2011 08:06 PM

IED bug?
 
Scenerio: I had a scouting motorized unit move up a road to recce in advance of my lead formation. Once I was close enough I unloaded my foot patrol to screen ahead of my scout vehicle. My 4 man patrol than was hit by road IED. Instead of my foot patrol taking the damage from the IED my scout vehicle was blown to bits. My scout vehicle was 300m away from the IED contact. This has happened numerous times while playing battles with Taliban insurgents.

Has anybody else had this happened to them?

Mobhack November 5th, 2011 08:53 PM

Re: IED bug?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EOT (Post 787931)
Scenerio: I had a scouting motorized unit move up a road to recce in advance of my lead formation. Once I was close enough I unloaded my foot patrol to screen ahead of my scout vehicle. My 4 man patrol than was hit by road IED. Instead of my foot patrol taking the damage from the IED my scout vehicle was blown to bits. My scout vehicle was 300m away from the IED contact. This has happened numerous times while playing battles with Taliban insurgents.

Has anybody else had this happened to them?

If it was a fertiliser bomb IED, then that has quite a large blast radius - so your vehicle may well have been inside that (depending where the bomb was)?.

I have not let one off with the blast circles feature turned on for some time now - but 6 hexes may well be the case for it.

So - I set up a simple test, buying zillions of the large IED for Mujadeen and set blast radius on after auto-deploying. Blast circle is in the 5-6 hex range, so your vehicle (esp if soft) may well have just been in the blast zone, depending where the IED was in relation to your patrol when it went off.

Cheers
Andy

EOT November 5th, 2011 10:41 PM

Re: IED bug?
 
I didn't realize the IED warhead size was a 96! Your right the blast radius was 4-6 hex. My LAV was not moving at the time of the blast.
No wonder alot of energy and research are being spent on upgrading vehicles against IED's attacks or detecting them.


On the flip side can IED's and booby traps be command detonated by Mujadeen OB or is this an automatic game feature?

Thanks Andy

Mobhack November 6th, 2011 12:12 AM

Re: IED bug?
 
Command detonated (F key), if in radio contact (and the AI has code to do so if enemy is spotted near one).

Andy

Suhiir November 6th, 2011 10:08 AM

Re: IED bug?
 
I personally modified the OOB's so "IED" is now "Fertiliser Bomb" and left them in trucks and created a new IED with a warhead = 24 and HE Kill = 48.

In reality most IEDs are a merely an old artillery shell not a huge Fertiliser Bomb. WinSPMBT currently assumes every IED is a truck bomb so if you attempt to play vs the AI you will get dozens of them every battle. By cutting them down to a reasonable size they're still deadly but no longer destroying entire platoons with each and every blast.

That's my solution to the "issue" and NOT official policy.

EOT November 6th, 2011 10:14 AM

Re: IED bug?
 
Just when you think you've mastered SPMBT, you discover new features to challenge your tactics! Slow $ Easy I guess

Thanks Andy

Rick

EOT November 6th, 2011 10:25 AM

Re: IED bug?
 
Suhiir, I modified a suicide bomber into motorcycle unit with an explosive vest. I didn't modify the weapon values because some of these IED's are huge.

Suhiir November 6th, 2011 11:16 AM

Re: IED bug?
 
I've spent some time playing with explosion effects in WinSPMBT trying to come up with values that seem to work (in my opinion) better.

Warhead while it effects destructive power seems to primarily determine blast radius.

HE (or AP) Kill is primarily destructive power and has little to no effect on blast radius.

I'm thinking that a smaller Warhead value with probably a larger HE/AP Kill may better simulate IEDs. And on occasion I make and test new versions trying to find the right values to generate the effect I'm looking for.

DRG November 6th, 2011 01:32 PM

Re: IED bug?
 
IED's have already been adjusted in the OOB's for next years release


Don

cbreedon November 12th, 2011 11:33 PM

Re: IED bug?
 
I thought I had read somewhere that you could target IED's and trigger their explosion. I haven't been able to do that. Did I miss-read something or is there a way to take out IED's before they explode?


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