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UncleYee February 28th, 2004 09:17 PM

Absolute lowest item costs?
 
Not to be ridiculous, but because I'm wondering: Hammer of the forge lord on one of those Ulm iron priests with forge of the ancients in effect. How much does a ring of wizardry (normally 80 pearls) cost (assuming he's juiced enuogh to be able to forge it)?

What if there's a 20% construction bonus as well?

I sure do love cheap items and I'm wondering how these effects stack.

PvK February 28th, 2004 11:04 PM

Re: Absolute lowest item costs?
 
They multiply together, as advertized. Lowest cost for any item is one gem of each required type.

PvK

mivayan February 29th, 2004 02:47 AM

Re: Absolute lowest item costs?
 
I got curious about this so I did a little test. I checked the cost of forging mage bane (40 earth gems) with forge of the ancients active.

Using a mage without forge bonus: 20 gems. (1/2 price)
Ulm black priest (forge bonus 25): 15 gems (3/8 price)
Black priest + dwarven hammer (bonus 50): 10 gems (1/4 price)
Black priest + hammer of the forge lord (bonus 75): 5 (1/8 price)

Forge bonuses seems to be additive, forge of the ancients halves the cost after forge bonuses. You would pay 10 gems for a ring of wizardry.

Now someone just needs to get a nataraja equipped with the hammer of the forge lord and the hammer of the cyclops(?) that you need to wish for unless you find and kill the special independant leader that have it. You should be able to forge any item for 1gold that way

Quote:

What if there's a 20% construction bonus as well?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think that only works for spells and not forging items, but I have not tried.

PhilD February 29th, 2004 08:34 AM

Re: Absolute lowest item costs?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mivayan:
I got curious about this so I did a little test. I checked the cost of forging mage bane (40 earth gems) with forge of the ancients active.

Using a mage without forge bonus: 20 gems. (1/2 price)
Ulm black priest (forge bonus 25): 15 gems (3/8 price)
Black priest + dwarven hammer (bonus 50): 10 gems (1/4 price)
Black priest + hammer of the forge lord (bonus 75): 5 (1/8 price)

Forge bonuses seems to be additive, forge of the ancients halves the cost after forge bonuses. You would pay 10 gems for a ring of wizardry.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, I've got a Ulm game going on the World map, with a strong emphasis on forging cool stuff (about 50 Clams and Fever Fetishes, only stopped making them because I don't have enough bearers...)

I get nice Robes of Invulnerability for 10 gems, but since I don't have a Master Smith empowered in Astral, I still have to pay 20 gems for my Rings of Wizardry http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

MaxWilson April 17th, 2007 01:06 AM

Re: Absolute lowest item costs?
 
I can confirm that sites with a construction bonus (Steel Ovens) definitely affect forging costs, and I'm 80% certain it's an additive and not multiplicative bonus. So a Steel Oven (20% bonus) and a Dwarven Hammer give you items for 55% of normal cost, rounded down. 5 gem items cost 2, and 10 gem items cost 5. Adding FotA would take this down to 1 and 2 respectively.

-Max


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