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Suhiir April 2nd, 2019 10:48 PM

WinSPMBT v13 Corrections
 
Since v13 is scheduled to be the last upgrade for WinSPMBT I figured we could use a thread for ONLY OOB corrections/fixes.

DO NOT POST QUESTIONS OR START DISCUSSIONS IN THIS THREAD

Let this be the place to quickly, and easily find OOB updates.

Suhiir April 2nd, 2019 10:48 PM

Re: WinSPMBT v13 Corrections
 
OOB#13 USMC

Unit# 141 F/A-18C Hornet - Radio=90
Unit# 216 F/A-18A+ Hornet - Weapon#2 213 HE=2
Unit# 574 F-35B Ltng II - Dates 07/118-12/125
Unit# 585 F-35B Ltng II - EW=10

Suhiir April 26th, 2019 01:41 AM

Re: WinSPMBT v13 Corrections
 
OOB#13 USMC

WEAPONS
Weapon# 086 M27 ACOG - HE Kill=3

UNITS
Unit# 172 AH-1Z Viper - EW=9
Unit# 173 AH-1Z Viper - EW=9
Unit# 192 AH-1Z Viper - EW=9, Weapon#2 AP=12, Weapon#4 0 HE=0
Unit# 661 M-ATV SF Gat - Weapon#1 HE=36 AP=9 , ROF 9
Unit# 668 L-ATV SF Gat - Weapon#1 HE=36 AP=9
Unit# 964 Polaris MRZR - Crew=1, Radio=0

DRG April 26th, 2019 06:36 AM

Re: WinSPMBT v13 Corrections
 
Unit# 964 Polaris MRZR - Crew=1, Radio=0 :doh:

There is ONE unit in that unitclass so there is only ONE unit that can be picked so that the unit is set up as 90, 91, 92 or even 93 is irrelevant...... unless you are suggesting it should not have a radio at all which in that case we have a :doh::doh:.... of course a modern Marine unit would have radio communication.

Radio codes are only used for AI picks to ensure a unit is not picked by the AI excessively so in some cases units are given restrictive X1 codes just so they are not picked over and over simply becasue of the way the AI runs through the list to select a unit and in some cases they are given 92 so they DO get picked more often so it's a game design issue which in this case is a non - issue as it's the ONLY unit available.

Suhiir April 27th, 2019 04:53 AM

Re: WinSPMBT v13 Corrections
 
I'm sure the passengers in the MRZR have the typical squad/platoon comm systems. But that's the passengers, it doesn't have built-in comm ... it also makes the unit cheaper :D
( Also it makes it impossible to use the unit as a cheap FO. )

Suhiir September 7th, 2019 04:17 AM

Re: WinSPMBT v13 Corrections
 
OOB#13 USMC

UNITS
Unit# 489 PB Mk.IV - Dates 1/89-8/115

Unit# 539 PB Mk.VI SOC - Rename "PB Mk.VI"
Carry=113
Speed=26
Weapon#2 145 HE=120 AP=0
Weapon#3 145 HE=120 AP=0

Unit# 524 (NEW UNIT Copy Unit# 539)
Unit Class=197
Weapon#4 125 HE=72 AP=27

DRG September 7th, 2019 07:17 AM

Re: WinSPMBT v13 Corrections
 
Done

DRG September 7th, 2019 08:29 AM

Re: WinSPMBT v13 Corrections
 
While you are playing about with the boats...... I cannot find any info at all on unit 488 (SPB Mk.III) it uses the same photo as the PBR Mk.II. Googling "SPB Mk.III" or just "SPB" retrieves nothing worthwhile

http://www.navypedia.org/ships/usa/us_sc_pbr3.htm

lists a PBR Mk III in service 1968 - 1973 but that date may be manufacturing they do say there was some "discarding" of those boats in the late 1980's which would kinds-sorta fit with the date range for U488 now so this may just be a mistype.....PBR / SPB.....IDK but I do know when we released the Windows version of the game U488 was a PBR Mk.II. That said another source says PBR's were only made as Mk I and Mk II.........don'tcha just love OOB work.....?

https://www.militarymachinesofameric...ver--pbr-.html

* turn your sound on when you check that webpage :)....... I hadn't heard Fortunate Son in ages

Suhiir September 7th, 2019 09:47 PM

Re: WinSPMBT v13 Corrections
 
The US Navy really wasn't all that interested in patrolling rivers, they felt it was the US Armies problem. But, when you get orders you say "Aye, aye, Sir!"

The first attempt (the PBR I, Aug 1965) was just civilian pleasure boat with guns. The Mk II (1967) was a slightly upgraded version of the Mk I. All Mk Is and all but 27 Mk IIs were transferred to Vietnam in 1973.

The PBR Mk III was developed in 1979 and featured an aluminum (vice fiberglass) hull and replaced the twin 50s of the Mk I & II with a 40mm.
http://www.warboats.org/mk3.htm

There is CONSIDERABLE confusion regarding the PBR Mk IV (or Mk VI depending on how you look at it). The US Navy replaced the "Patrol Boat River" with the "Patrol Craft Fast" (and re-designated existing PBRs to PCFs) in 1994. One's and two's of various designs were obtained (and evaluated), but there really was no "standard" Mk VI. Their primary function was SEAL support, but were used for riverine operations as well. SEALs traveled on any form of surface transport available, often resorting to taping lawn furniture to the deck of the available craft.

In 1995 the Navy adopted the "Special Operations Craft Mk V" which was specifically designed for SpecOps/SEAL support. These boats have a VERY limited patrol duration and they were intended as ship-to-shore transports not "Patrol Boats".

In 2014 the "Patrol Boat Mk VI" (A.K.A. the "SAFE Boat Mk VI") was adopted with a 5-day patrol duration and can be configured for either patrol duties or SEAL insertion.

So there was "officially" no PBR Mk IV. The "Patrol Boat Mk IV or VI" is "officially" the 4th in the series but it's also the 6th. As the "SOC Mk V" isn't "officially" a "Patrol Boat".

Confused yet?

And on that topic ...

Unit# 488 SPB Mk.III:
Weapon#1 57 HE=64 AP=16
Weapon#2 55 HE=90 AP=0

Use any LMB and Icon you like as these are non-standard boats.

FASTBOAT TOUGH September 8th, 2019 03:03 AM

Re: WinSPMBT v13 Corrections
 
This might help from the guys that rode them. Also any drawings or pictures can be clicked on and enlarged. Further bottom right pictures of ref 1 show PB MK III in additional weapons config. it appears in the drawings, they show the "standard" weapons config.
http://warboats.org/mk3.htm
https://nara.getarchive.net/media/a-...15ef?zoom=true
https://picryl.com/media/a-starboard...at-unit-e4105e


As of 2015 the PB MK VI is the "standard bearer" for the USN.
https://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_d...&tid=2600&ct=4
https://www.naval-technology.com/pro...-patrol-boats/
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...4818&FORM=VIRE


Here's the main website for "warboats" above...
http://www.warboats.org/
http://www.warboats.org/vietnamboats.htm


In my current capacity I'm still qualified as a "Coxswain" on the 34-foot Dauntless Sea Ark Patrol Boats and for a short time a 40-ft Patrol Boat w/ twin Cummins turbo-charged diesel engines. That baby could "ride the waves" but she was a maintenance bear. We no longer "provide" those services and at times I miss it.

Regards,
Pat
:capt:


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