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Atrocities June 24th, 2003 07:15 AM

STM "Final v1.7.5" Discussion
 
The Star Trek Mod

I have talked it over with both Kwok and CNC Raymond about re-modding the AST Mod into a mod similar to the one Kwok was working on.

Kwok has given his support of this, and is allowing me to use many of his concepts and ideas. Thank you Captain Kwok.

CNC has agreed to allow me to scavenge the AST mod as needed.

If all progresses well, I will have a beta Version of the mod out by the middle of July.

The mod will use most, if not all of Captain Kowks original Star Trek mod concepts, settings, ideas, etc, in conjunction with a few from the AST mod.

I will set up a web page soon that will list my progress. In the mean time your comments are welcome.

[ June 15, 2004, 06:03: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

minipol June 24th, 2003 08:35 AM

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Cool but isn't mid july a bit optimistic if you know how long it took Capt'n?
Anyway, i hope you succeed in doing so because if want to play a good ST mod. It was one of the initial reasons i bought the game: i saw many of your shipsets so i knew the game was very moddable http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron June 24th, 2003 09:12 AM

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Much of Kwok's time (until the Last few months) was spent theorizing and coming up with ideas, and also making graphics. The actual implementation of them in the data files takes much less time.

Atrocities June 24th, 2003 10:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by minipol:
Cool but isn't mid july a bit optimistic if you know how long it took Capt'n?
Anyway, i hope you succeed in doing so because if want to play a good ST mod. It was one of the initial reasons i bought the game: i saw many of your shipsets so i knew the game was very moddable http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What Fyron said is very true and remember that the AST mod has been around now for over six months and a lot of the files have been kinda sorta optimized for a trek based mod already.

So I am hopeful. The ships sets are already done, the basic mod blue print is done, all that really remains is taking what Kwok has generated for the Star Trek mod and make it using his concepts.

Captain Kwok June 24th, 2003 06:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Chief Engineer Erax:
Maybe this is a good time to explain the differences between both mods to us forum-goers who weren't around when work on them began?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The basic difference between the two mods was that the ASTmod played more along the lines of a typical SE4 game, while the STmod was intended to be a complete 'conVersion' sort of thing, much skewed from the original game.

Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Much of Kwok's time (until the Last few months) was spent theorizing and coming up with ideas, and also making graphics. The actual implementation of them in the data files takes much less time.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is true. Also keep in mind that most of the time while I was working on the mod, I was also attending school, working, and married. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

I've given Atrocities the full go ahead to use whatever he wants from the old mod, and I'd stay on in more of a consulting role. We discussed this Last night and the new mod should be along the lines of what I was working on, but minus the ships and other graphics I had before the loss.

I'm going to keep the STmod site up, but I might move in to a different web address in the next week or so. I'll redo my current site to feature more info about SE4, StarFury, and other fun Captain Kwok stuff I'll be working on once I my new computer arrives.

Anyways, good luck to Atrocities on this task and I hope he meets his self-imposed timeline. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[ June 24, 2003, 17:22: Message edited by: Captain Kwok ]

Erax June 25th, 2003 01:26 AM

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Maybe this is a good time to explain the differences between both mods to us forum-goers who weren't around when work on them began ?

If it's been explained elsewhere, just point me in the right direction.

Atrocities June 26th, 2003 12:55 PM

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Heres an update.

1. I have set up the basic features of the mod.
a. The Races are in place
b. The races ship images are organized
c. The neutral races are in place
d. The basic data files are in place
e. The basic race AI is in place
f. The Vehicle.txt file has been established
g. The IntelProject.txt file has been established
h. The cultures.txt file has been established
i. The TechArea.txt file haa been established
j. The RacialTraits.txt file has been established

What I mean by established is that they are set up and ready for testing.

I have ran a test game with a few errors which I have corrected.

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PLEASE NOTE FOR FUTURE REFERENCE:
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1. At this time setting up the System and Quadrant Types will be a low priority. The mod at first will have to use standard SEIV settings.

2. I had to use the Star Trek ship images from NASY for all of the races with the exception of the neutral races.

3. The neutral races will use defualt ship images.

4. At this time I have removed the fighters from the mod. (Each race will have 1 shuttle to begin with.)

5. On some races I had to devate from what Kwok has listed as ship types and images. This can be fixed later if needed.

6. I need help on setting up the pseudo-Newtonian propulsion model for the mod.

7. I need help on setting up the "leaky Armor & Shield" model for the mod.

8. I need help on setting up additional population modifiers to help to reduce or increase construction and production rates for various sized populations.

9. If any one is interested in working on System types and planet settings please let me know.

10. The Mod is on track thus far for a private beta toward the middle of July. If you are interested in signing up for the beta, and can offer help in the areas listed above, please email me at atrocities@astmod.com. I have to limit the amount of beta testers so please only submit your name if you can contribute to the development of the mod.

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WHATS NEXT
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1. I will start on the Captian Components
2. Start on the race facilities
3. Start on the race components

I have every intention of getting this mod out for play soon. I do not expect to use the Planet image mod but I will be using the Components and Facilities image mods for some items. I may even make a few specific images for things myself.

Question or Comments are welcome.

Erax June 26th, 2003 06:22 PM

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Actually, the Borg shield depleter and the Borg tractor beam were two separate weapons that they happened to use in conjunction. At least it seemed that way to me from watching the TNG episodes.

Scipio June 26th, 2003 07:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Chief Engineer Erax:
Actually, the Borg shield depleter and the Borg tractor beam were two separate weapons that they happened to use in conjunction. At least it seemed that way to me from watching the TNG episodes.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Perhaps I am wrong, but I think I remember that the Borg tractor beeam alone also drained the shields.

Fyron June 26th, 2003 09:10 PM

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AT, make sure to incorporate USM (linked in sig). Makes the game much better IMO.


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