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Old August 26th, 2012, 08:10 AM
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Default Re: Question to the community regarding the sportsmanship and z-fire

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Originally Posted by Mobhack View Post
where have we ever said that MGs "give double damage because of their RoF"??

You may perhaps be getting confused with multi-MG sections as opposed to single MG elements. MG sections may have 2 or even 3 MG lines for the 2 or 3 weapons in the element, that is not "doubling their Rof" - it is extra guns over the singleton.

Andy

I didn't mean to imply that you have ever said that. I just pointed out that MMGs and HMGs with a RoF of approx 1200 RPM get 'double damage' (actually KILL) compared to 600 RPM RoF MGs.

If you look at the KILL values of 30cal MMGs/HMGs in the game, they correspond to the approximate RoF of the weapon:


RoF approx 500-600
KILL 5

Vickers HMG
30 cal Brownings

RoF approx 900
KILL 8

MG-34

RoF approx 1200
KILL 10

MG-42


It's right that the MG-42 gets KILL 10, because it puts twice as much ammo down range as say the Vickers (KILL 5) in the same length burst.

The strength of the 1200 RPM weapons was how deadly they were, their weakness was that they were ammo hogs. The strength of the 600 RPM weapons was that they used half the ammo, therefore were good for suppression, but were not as deadly.

The disparity is with the ammo loadouts. The MG-42 gets double the KILL of 500-600 RPM HMGs, but should get half as many bursts.

Currently in SP, we are modeling the deadliness correctly, but the high RoF weapons are getting an unfair advantage as they have the same SP ammo loadouts (with same size crews) as the weapons that conserve ammo.



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Originally Posted by Aeraaa View Post
I'm sorry but isnt a single shot from an MG or rifle or whatever approximately a burst of 10 rounds? If that's the case, then the ammo loadout is correct.
If this is true, then why does the MG-42 get KILL 10 and the 30cal Browning only KILL 5?

They shoot very similar rounds. The MG-42 even has a much shorter barrel length and lower muzzel velocity than the Browning, and the MG-42 is only air cooled, not water cooled like the M1917.

The only reason the MG-42 is more deadly is because it shoots twice as much ammo in a burst.

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