April 2nd, 2022, 07:18 AM
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
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Originally Posted by DRG
Thinking that if they were falling short of expectations we would have heard about it by now
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u...-say-rcna20878
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“The Javelins are the most sophisticated and most effective weapon the Ukrainians have, but not the most numerous,” Cancian said.
The Ukrainians have more Israeli-made NLOS “Spike” antitank missiles in their arsenal as well as German Panzerfaust 3 antitank weapons, Cancian said.
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THAT is significant from my POV for three reasons
- This is the first news I have read they have any Spikes
- This is the first news I have read that the Ukrainians have NLOS Spikes.
- I have been testing various NLOS weapons with my drone experiments and the two coupled together is highly effective
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=5649222743ca
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The powerful Javelin anti-tank missiles that Ukraine has been getting from the United States tend to dominate the headlines.
That makes sense. The Javelins aren’t just highly effective weapons—they’re also symbols of U.S. support for Ukraine as a huge Russian army masses on the Russia-Ukraine border.
But the Ukrainian army has only a handful of Javelin launchers—47 from the United States plus an unspecified number that Estonia has pledged—and a few hundred of the 35-pound, 2.5-mile-range, infrared-guided missiles.
The huge majority of Ukraine’s anti-tank missile arsenal is locally made. And the local Stugna-P is proving to be just about as dangerous as the world-class Javelin. And cheaper.
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We do have the Skif in the OOB and I just changed it to make it more selectable to the AI but ( I just discovered ) the Stugna-P was developed from the Skif so that's on the list to investigate ( that may be the Skif 2M-K ATGM W237 ),but I need to investigate further if the Ukrainians do indeed have NLOS Spikes
THIS says they do not
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/l...s-no-to-spike/
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Israel has decided not to authorise European users of Rafael Spike to donate the advanced ATGMs to Ukraine, so as avoid disrupting its fragile relationship with Russia that allows attacks on Iran-related targets in Syria.
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Lots of contradictory stuff out there I read while Israel has been asked several times for Spike they have not supplied any.
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John
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