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412 Type 97 Ki-30 - the book doesn't even mention any Ki-30 to be captured and used by the Chinese. On the other hand, the icon 845 would be ideal for Vultee V-11 (http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/aww2/a19/a19-1.gif) - 30 were ordered and operational from 1/38, being one of typical Chinese modern bombers. Used until around 1940.
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vultee_V-11 it carried 1080 lbs of bombs, had a crew of 3 and max speed 370 km/h (although Chinese ones had 1000 hp instead of 1200 hp engine). It isn't clear, if they had the same armament of 4 MGs.

Same for 429 Type 97 Ki-30 level bomber.

Also, a cool monoplane bomber, which could use the same icon, was Northrop 2E Gamma - 49 delivered in a course of 1934
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1057/...948e6b2d84.jpg
http://i.guancha.cn/News/2013/8/7/63...6077964475.jpg
upper view http://www.skytamer.com/1.2/Northrop...C-Vol1p216.jpg
I have no exact specs, but according to Russian page http://www.airwar.ru/enc/aww2/a17.html , Chinese 2E had 725 kg of bombs, 4 MGs ("or according to other sources 2") and 710 HP engine. A close model 2C (XA-16) with 925 hp engine carried 500kg of bombs developed 341 km/h http://www.airwar.ru/enc/aww2/a13.html

An important aircraft, used since 1933, was Hawk I (usually referred to as Hawk II, but A History of Chinese Aircraft claims, that the correct name was Hawk I)
Info: http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/hawk_china.htm and sub-pages (two 7.62mm MGs, two bombs around 120 lb).
Photo: http://hartmann.valka.cz/panzergener...id=146&lang=en

First delivered around 5/33 and used until around 1940. Icon 844 fits quite well (He 66/Hs 123), or here is an upper view: http://rsmodels.cz/galerie/produkty/...avd2_large.jpg and line drawing http://www.aviapress.com/magaz/avv/avv200704_2.jpg

There was also Hawk III, with retracting undercarriage, but it was not much different from Hawk I, while available from late 1936.

Level bombers:

428 Fiat Br.3 - available only from late 1932 (now 1/30). It could take a heavier variant of 6 x 250lb or 2 x 500lb bombs (confirmed in a book). They ceased to be operational by 6/37 (now 12/40 - it could stay until advent of 435 Martin 139 in mid-37, or there could be added Northrop Gamma as level bomber as well).

The earliest level bomber could be Breguet 14.

431 Fiat Br.20 - only one is known to have been captured

432 SB-2 - photo has clearly Spanish markings, I'm attaching Chinese ones.


433 B-25b Mitchell
- there were used only D,H,J models, operational from 1943 (now 6/42) (text attached)

434 DB-3 - delivered already in 6/39 (now 1/40). Weren't operational by 11/41.

435 Martin 139W - delivered already in mid-37 (now 6/38)

436 Heinkel 111B-2 - a designation was He 111K (export version of 111A). Arrived already in 8/36 (now 7/37).

437 Douglas A-20
- they were to be delivered under lend-lease, but these plans were cancelled.

It could be replaced with A29 Hudson, used from 8/42, but it had quite lousy bomb load (340 kg according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Hudson) - the icon could do.

Right after the war in 1945 B-24M bombers were received. Also, after the war there were used a number of Japanese Ki-48.

That's all from my side.
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