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Old January 21st, 2018, 07:03 PM

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Default Re: Polish OOB

I'm sorry to overload you, but icons for 37mm Bofors just must be corrected
The rest - well, you can decide if to spare 10 minutes to complete.

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Errors, that should be corrected:


101 105mm Gun - wz.29 gun should have twin-trail icon, not a single-trail - the best is 2125 (of 10 cm K18)

368 Polski Fiat 508 - much better icon, probably even dedicated to it (currently unused) is 2749/2751.
Better name is PF 508 Lazik - they were named so (rough translation = "rover")

370 Polski Fiat 621 - much better icon of Polish primary truck is 3170/3172 - current one is too slim, with much too long cargo platform (upper view http://www.mulierchile.com/polski-fi...08-518-007.jpg)

400, 470 37mm AT gun - icon has been changed to a new one, but erroneous ancient gun - proper icon for Bofors is 8000

402 47mm AT-Gun - it still has old icon 55. Best icon for French 47 mm seems 8038 (of US 37 mm), because of its width and flat shield between wheels. It was quite heavy piece, and should be much larger, than 8019 icon used in French oob.

(The same for French #26, Vichy #26, Italian #83 C/C 47L53 SA37, German #336 4.7cm PaK 183f)

563-567,573 Peugot - a spelling error in name (should be Peugeot)
(BTW: better designations, than AM/AC unused outside France, would be "Peugeot (MG)" - or just "Peugeot", and "Peugeot (37mm)" or something like that.)

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Simple things, that it's worth to correct:

15 Stuart V - used until 5/44 only (now 12/46) - then rebuilt to Stuart Recce

491 Stuart Recce - maybe it's worth to just reclassify it to 12 Light Tank, like other Stuarts? (now Light Cav. Tank). They replaced Stuarts as recce tanks in Italian theatre. Now the unit is only used in one single-tank formation #149.
BTW: max speed of turretless Stuarts was reported in Polish sources to be over 70 km/h, due to their smaller weight.


45 Staghound - it was used from 9/43 (now 6/44), radio should be 2 or 0 (now 1) - it was the most common Polish AC in 1944/45

On contrary, 429 M-H IV should be least common AC (now radio 0) (BTW: it was used since 6/45 - now 5/45)
Better icon seems 1371 (of Guy AC), for it had no spare wheel on a front plate (now it's Humber AC) (drawing: https://www.the-blueprints.com/bluep...on-mark-iv.gif) - same for British unit 358 - unless there is a beautiful icon 3933/1212 in SPMBT...

53 Cpt 50mm AT Gun - new standard icon of Pak 38 is 8010


104 Hurricane IIc - it should have two 500lb bombs, like the British one (it seems, that Hurricane couldn't take a single bomb at all).

106 Mosquito VI - it could be available earlier (they were already used from 11/43 by Polish 305 Squadron - now 6/44)

185 Crusader AA Mk2 - in fact they had coaxial AAMG Vickers instead of BMG (they had no MG turret)
(the same applies to British unit 105).

276 4.5in Howitzer - icon is inappropriate, with much too long barrel - British oob uses 2115

282 Rifle Squad - since it has radio 3, it can receive back #60 wz.38M self-loading rifle as a primary weapon (rare experimental unit, nevertheless a couple were used). Maybe it should be named as experimental?

310 Obrona Narodowa - photo should be 32134, like unit 311 (now they are some partisans)

401 25mm AT-Gun - new icon for French 25mm is 8018 (it still has old 54)


418 wz.25 AAMG [2] - unit and its weapon should be named wz.14 (original Hotchkiss, instead of modified wz.25 used only as TMG).

438 Morris LRC - better icon seems 1398 (of Beaverette IV), with its asymmetrical turret (current one is some car, better than nothing).
Same for British unit #558

448 Valentine II - was still used by the Polish after 6/42 - until 11/43 in Mid East

471 Cpt 47mm AT-Gun - new icon for Breda 47 mm is 8029

483 Spitfire Mk.XIV - it's better to rename it Mk.IX, a standard in Polish squadrons operating over ETO in ground support.

In any case, .50 MGs should be changed to two #167 20mm Hispano (well, it had also two .50 MGs, but cannons are more important )

560 75mm wz.97/25 - name should be wz.22/24, in accordance with the weapon.

610,613-615 PZL-23B Karas - speed 4 is probably too much (according to Polish monographs, it was only 268 km/h with maximum bombs load, 319 km/h clean)

691,692 Renault M26/27 - they should be used only until 1932 (rebuilt to ordinary FT afterwards) (now 9/39)

711 Partisan PIAT - better photo, showing Polish partisan Piat in action: https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a9/75/7b/a...-the-ruins.jpg
or http://www.info-pc.home.pl/whatfor/baza/aa2/piat1n.jpg

There should be added Sherman Dozer - they were used by Polish tank units (on contrary to #31 Churchill AVRE, which could possibly be used only by allied units).


Best truck icons:
369 Polski Fiat 618 - best is 2138 - short platform 1.2t truck (same for desert one, winter one could stay)

376 Chevrolet 157 - better is 3167/3169, so that it's longer than Fiat 621

382 3 Ton GS Truck - icon is the same as #347 30cwt truck, should be bigger, eg. 2151


Formations:


210,211,212 Monitor, Gunboat - it's better to clarify River Monitor / River Gunboat

338 Infantry Gun Pl - there should be limber instead of wagon

358 Heavy Art Bn /3 - sadly, there was only one 105mm battery and one 155mm battery (3 guns each) in heavy arty units of infantry divisions

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That's all as for Poland this season.

Last edited by Pibwl; January 21st, 2018 at 07:35 PM..