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Old October 16th, 2011, 07:43 AM

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Default Re: Czech OOB 5.5

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57 BTR-50PK - according to Russian and Czech sources, it can carry 20 men (now 112). Speed was no more, than 45 km/h (now: 16) (it concerns all countries). According to http://www.palba.cz/printview.php?t=3606&start=0 they were used in CS from 1960.

76 Heavy truck - we might create earlier heavy truck, with long nose, until mid-70s, Tatra T111 for example (I can create picture)

78,90 57mm AT-Gun, 76mm Field Gun - extinct before 1968 (table http://www.palba.cz/forumfoto/displa...084&fullsize=1 )

81 57mm AT-Gun - a secondary weapon should be probably some bolt rifle, eg. #20 M38/44 Carbine (or SMG, like PPSh, PPS, or after 1952: vz.24 SMG or vz.52 rifle) - the Czechs didn't use SKS.
The same for #80 37mm AA-Gun and #89 57mm AA-Gun (which could actually use vz.58)

93 vz.52 MMG [2] (non existing unit) - maybe it's worth to replace it with standard MMG after the war vz.37 http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/17115 (Besa), pic 52062 (used, I assume, until mid-50s).

Paras:

98 Para section - according to one comment on http://en.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/11593 , early paratroops used
StG-44 (#12, pic 23062). It wasn't a standardized weapon in the Czech army, but I guess they were supplemented in paratroops with PPS-43 or MP-40 SMG rather than rifles, because later the paratroops were given Sa 26 SMG.
There are no signs of RPG-2 usage in CS on quoted pages, nor other sources. According to http://www.palba.cz/printview.php?t=3606&start=0 there existed Panzerfaust and Panzerschrecks in CS, although most were stored due to doubtful reliability (however, we consider a war situation).

Most probably before 1958 a para section had 9 men (like infantry section - it will be covered later). According to http://www.palba.cz/printview.php?t=3156&start=0 , first training and experimental para battalion existed already in 1947, so first date should be changed.

99 Para section - from early 50s, paratroops used Sa 25 then Sa 26 SMG (http://en.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/16961/start/0 and note on Stg-44 page above) (#6, pic 37103). Section should have 9 men (as above)

100 Para section - most probably after 1958 a para section had 8 men (like infantry section - it will be covered later, see also below)

101 Para section - in 1969 a para section had 8 men (http://vojenstvi.cz/vasedotazy_97.htm ). Armament is OK. It is possible, that RPG-7 was introduced some two years earlier (there's a mention on manual from 1967 http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/28502 )

102 Para section - I wonder, if they really had replaced RPG-7 with RPG-75, offering much worse range. It's my supposition, but RPG-75 was rather an one-shot additional infantry weapon, like M72 LAW. Moreover, paratroop section should have best AT capabilities possible, with no reason to withdraw RPG-7. In addition, RPG-7 launcher with 8 shots probably weighs less, than 8 RPG-75 launchers (and sure takes less space).

103 SMG section - no signs of RPG-2 usage - see #98. There's no information, if they had any RPG at all. Class should be rather 66 (like #302), since now they are infantry, like rifle-armed #306, 308

104 Para Sniper - better picture of Czech vz.54 rifle is 37112

105 Para Sniper - from mid-70s they used SVD (http://www.palba.cz/portal.php?news=...ea9082438f185f ) - I don't know if it has a connection with increased vision (picture 11112)

108 Engineers - the Czech didn't use SKS. Could be #20 M38/44 Carbine

111 Engineers - I believe, main weapon of engineers from 1980 should be standard vz.58 rifle, not vz.24 SMG from early 1950s? It's rather not used currently, anyway.

#112, 113 Sniper - see 104, 105
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