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Old November 3rd, 2015, 07:22 PM

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Default Re: Italy OOB 34 corrections/suggestions (v.8.1)

Small supplement to truck-mounted artillery

11 Semovente CA 20 - it doesn't seem, that light AA guns were designated as Semovente (SP-gun). Apparently they were rather known as Autocannone (gun truck). If we don't name it with a specific name, eg. Ford F15 20/65, then I suggest to name it Autocannone 20.

Fords with 20mm seem most popular in desert warfare, but 20mm guns were also put on light trucks AS37, and medium trucks SPA-38 (mentioned) and SPA Dovunque 35 - photo at: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPA_Dovunque_35
Therefore, creators of unit 487 SPA 35 AS-20 might have had in mind SPA Dovunque 35, not SPA 38 - but, as I mentioned, SPA 38 was more common.

475 Autocannon 20mm, 477 Autocannon 47mm - in Italian it is Autocannone, so maybe "Autocannone 20" is better? I'm not Italian, so I don't know if removing a last letter is acceptable in this case. We could also name them AS37 20/65 or AS37 47/32 (most popular desert vehicle carrying these guns, along with Ford in case of 20mm, but Ford was more AA-oriented). AS43 came later, and most were taken by the Germans.

Before advent of formation #238 AS Sahariane we could create an unit with three 65/17 gun trucks (unit 58) and two Fords with 20mm (unit 11), available from 9/41 - it was a variation of a battery with four 65/17 gun trucks, and both were known as "Batteria Volante" (flying battery). Unfortunately, the cool name must be shortened...

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484 TL-37 AS-20 - it should be 20mm gun on armoured S37 (aka AS37 Protetto), but I couldn't find info on such variant. Besides, its armour sides would probably interfere with the AA gun. Photo is ordinary S37, as unit #62 mentioned before.
Personally, I'd remove it.
Neither IT Wikipedia lists S37 among platforms for 20/65 guns: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breda_20/65_Mod._1935
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