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Old October 22nd, 2011, 08:11 PM

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Default Re: Czech OOB 5.5

Maybe I'll finish the aircraft, since I have them almost ready...

149 Su-7B - name should be Su-7BM (Czechoslovakia used only BM and later BKL, B was a Soviet variant). They were acquired only in early 1964 (practical date some 6/64, now there's 1/61). It could carry 4 bombs 500 kg (without fuel tanks - now it has 2). Used until late 1980s (now 12/81). [detailed info in an article on Su-7s in Polish Nowa Technika Wojskowa from 1997]

150 Su-7B - should be renamed Su-7BM or BKL. Used until late 1980s. In addition to 2 x RBK-500 it could additionally carry 2-4 x 250 kg bombs or 4x16 rockets 57mm S-5 (two weapons #185 with 8 shots) (- depicts six-hardpoint variant).

153 and others Su-22M-4 - usually written in sources Su-22M4.

154 Su-22 - should be Su-22M4 - Czechoslovakia used only this single-seater version, from 1984 (now: 1/81). In addition to 2 Kh-25 Karen it can take at least 64 or even 128 rockets 57mm S-5 (2-4 x32) - now it has only 32. Small launchers for 16 rockets practically weren't even seen with Su-22. Or it can take 4x Kh-25 (and 64 rockets) - such combinations appear on photos. I suppose, that this armament should be used until 10/02, like the others (now: 12/93)

155 Su-22M-4 - in addition to 2 Kh-29 Kedge it can take at least 2x500 kg bombs or 64 rockets 57mm S-5 or 40 rockets 80mm S-8.

157 Pe-2 - full name of this version Pe-2FT. Delivered in 5/46 (now there's 1/46), withdrawn already in 1951 (now: 54). Both dates demand change in formation #152. I don't know however, if its class "level bomber" is right, since they were in fact dive bombers (if it's changed, than the formation might serve for Il-28s, which were rather "level beombers").

158 Avia B-33 - there's no use for this unit, since #136 Il-10 (which was also designated B-33) is identical. Anyway, it could take only 4 rockets (now it has 2x2x2). Used until 1960.

There should be also variant of B-33 with 4 new more potent LR-130 rockets (see notes for unit #132) and 2 bombs 100 kg or with rockets and cluster HE or AT bomblets (carried in bomb bays).

161 Il-2M3 - used only until 1950 due to fatigue (now: 12/52). If it was armed with rockets, additional 2x 100 kg bombs were more probable (2x250 kg would be overload, especially considering fatigue of wartime aircraft).

There could be created another unit with 2x250kg bombs only.

163 130mm M-51 MRL - used at least from 1956, possibly even earlier (http://en.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/1...30mm-raketomet ) (now: 1/61).

164 BM-13 Katyusha - no mention on the Czech pages, that they were ever used.

166 MiG-29 - MiG-29s at that time couldn't carry air-to-ground missiles (only later MiG-29M export proposals). Especially, that Kh-29 needs laser station - in CS inventory they were used with Su-22 only. MiG-29 could carry 4 x 500 kg bombs. I don't know if they were operational until the end, but the Czech MiG-29s were given to Poland only in 1996, so ending date could be 12/95 (now: 12/94)

170 S-106 - better name is just MiG-21F-13 - in late 1950s the Czechs abandoned local names of fighters, and as page http://www.valka.cz/clanek_10769.html indicates, S-106 designation isn't used in practice. According to http://www.valka.cz/clanek_10856.html they were used operationally from 11/63 (now: 1/62). In 1962 only few were delivered for training.

There was also version with 2 rockets 240 mm S-24 (I suggested to convert #141 unit this way).

We might consider changing names from S-102 to MiG-15 S-102, S-103 to MiG-15bis S-103, S-105 to MiG-19 S-105.

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182 MiG-19PM - RS-2U was AA-only missile - see notes for units #141 (if we change it to Ch-66 missile, it was used only on Mig-21PF). To be removed IMO.

183 MiG-21MFN - according to http://www.valka.cz/clanek_10769.html , standard MiG-21M (MA) delivered in 1969, could carry 4 rockets 240 mm. It's not clear, why unit with such old rockets should be available from 1/99.

Proposed aircraft: according to http://www.valka.cz/clanek_10868.html MiG-23BN could take up to 6 x 500 kg or 8 x 250 kg bombs.

If you are interested in further suggestions concerning the Czech OOB, let me know.

Regards
Michal

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