[President_Elect_Shang]

Thank you PD. As he said the ships had weapons. It was the new units and the default strategies that caused the problem. Anyway that is still some good info and it is great to see all of this stuff pilling up. It should make it much easier for new modders to learn than we "old timers" had it from SE4. Besides who came up the "old timers" thing and what makes someone an old timer? What would I be since I haven't released a mod yet? See were I'm going with this; the old timer thing seems so... click-ish (?spelling?)