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Old October 22nd, 2019, 07:16 PM
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Fallout Re: MBT's

I'm so pissed right now!!!

I'm going to be REAL brief right now as I've spent hours again in trying to answer the question.

First I can't emphasize how many references I've looked at over the last 24+hrs.

The bottom-line is I come up with the same answer "over and over again"

Breath!

Night Vision/Early batches
TO1-KO1 Buran-PA with TPN-4-49-23 passive/active II (target id range 1.2/1.5 km)

Those distances are limited by lighting conditions as stated in ref. 1. Which "ambient" "twilight" or "skylight" before Sunrise and after Sunset. And not in the "Dark of Night", leaving you, depending where you are at on the planet and the time of year, from <1hr. to ~1.5hrs. before or after the celestial event has occurred on average. Read the end of first para and "Basic Characteristics" Line Item #6 from Ref. 1.
https://issuu.com/ufobject/docs/russ...ons_catalog/91
http://fofanov.armor.kiev.ua/


Commander Sight:[/b] Is a 1st GEN TI limited to the distances highlighted below. From Ref. 1 and all that have been posted or not.
PNK-4S complex includes TKN-4S Agat-S day/night sight (target id range 800 m (day)/700 (night)
https://issuu.com/ufobject/docs/russ...2rmor.kiev.ua/
http://fofanov.armor.kiev.ua/


I "split" the difference between the two distances from the Commanders Sight (750m) to get the TI 15 distance.

Of the advantages the T-80U had over the T-90 was in the FCS & VISION, remember all these and other refs. make it clear the T-90 only used certain parts of the T-80U FCS. They als state for the most part excepting VISION the T-80U FCS was on par with the LEOPARD 2 of the time.

I cannot in "good conscience" and in keeping with the current game TI/GSR stats, see the T-90 having TI/GSR of more then 25-30.

The equipment just does not support it.

To be brutely honest I'll quote Ruger Hauer from the end of "Blade Runner-Tears in the Rain"...“I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.”

That line holds true during this evolution it would turn our world "upside down" when it comes to VISION for the earlier years the 1st and some 2nd GEN sights were available.

I will say this much since this was the focus of the this evolution, the West had the advantage in VISION, FCS and to some degree REALIBILITY of their Tanks. The East had more powerful MG's and as it would turn out "better" ammo then we thought at the time, also to some degree they were also "better" PROTECTED as well.
Another one:
https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot...80-gambol.html

I'm spent. Lost everything looking for another Ref. earlier. And darn after losing last night. but, having a bonus evening off with CINCLANTHOME because of the range this morning, consider me "Out to, well, Dinner for the rest of the night."

Regards,
Pat
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