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Old August 29th, 2018, 04:40 PM

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Default Re: Spanish OOB32 and OOB33 v.11 (2018)

I've found another good source as for artillery http://www.amonio.es/artilleria.htm (main page: http://www.amonio.es/index2.htm)

There are no big changes to what I wrote, but some clarifications:

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86 Obus 75mm L32 - it shouldn't be Italian modern 75/32 gun ... but one of old 75/27 guns with max range 10.2 km ... M1906 guns were used by Republican Spain in a big number (bought? but it isn't known when).
http://www.amonio.es/canon_ita_7527.htm confirms, that 75/27 M1906 were bought, probably from Yugoslavia or Greece.

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87 Obus 75mm Schn (75/28) - ... it is 75/28 modelo 1912. There is no data, and I can't find such Schneider in Chamberlain/Gander's book on light artillery, but range 205 is impossible ... I guess it should be some 10 km max
http://www.amonio.es/canon_schneider_7528.htm calls it 75/28 Modelo 1906
Range 8500 m, but it was 10.700 m with "El proyectil rompedor modelo 32 y con espoleta IR"

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Possibly 85 Obus 75 M28 is the same gun ("28"). Otherwise there is no info on 75 mm Mle 28 gun...
Still no info on Mle 28. There is only a mention on "Cañón Schneider de 75 mm, modelo 1922", but without any details. It might be among a dozen of "Cañón Schneider 75 mm. Varios modelos." on a previous page. Still, not typical.

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91 Obus 80mm (Skoda) - apparently the same gun as 89 ... There are no other 76.5mm Skoda guns indicated on the quoted page.
Still no sign of other 76.5mm Skoda model, than M1907.

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93 Obus 105mm - according to Chamberlain/Gander, a range of Vickers M.1922 was 11.000 m (now 206).
http://www.amonio.es/obus_vickers_105_22.htm gives range 9200 m, so 200 would seem OK.

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94 Obus 107mm - probably they were 107 mm Type 38 guns bought by Russia in Japan ...Range of original 105 mm Type 38 gun was only 9.9 km or 10.800 m
http://www.amonio.es/muni_107.htm confirms range around 11 km, allowing to use it in counter battery purposes.

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96 Obus 122mm - no confirmation of Soviet howitzers on http://www.sbhac.net/Republica/Fuerz...us/ArtObus.htm
No mention either.

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156 210mm Canon, 157 260mm Mortero - no mention on such antique pieces ...
There is 210 mm Canon M1885 (nor 1895) http://www.amonio.es/index2.htm, used mostly by Nationalists, but its range is only 6850 m.

There is a mention, that Mortero de 260/9 was of Italian origin. According to https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/260/9_Mod._16 its range was only 9100 m, so its range 200 may or may not be justified... No information, which side used it.