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Default Re: Greek OOB31 v.9

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68 Pioneer Squad - LMG should be #99 M1926
(I haven't checked other instances of M1909 usage)
As for LMGs, my educated guess is, that second-line units like pioneers could have Chauchat LMGs, since the army was short of M1922/26 LMGs, but I have no sources...

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221,262 105mm Howitzer - correct photo is http://forum.axishistory.com/downloa...0ca1bd9823036c
It had twin tails, opening rather wide (and was a field gun, not a howitzer) - I suggest icon 2123

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263 155mm How Bty - used in mid-30s at least (Somua tractors were bought for them in mid-30s). I suspect, that they were used from 1/30 - they were WW1 vintage howitzers, and it's doubtful to buy them in 1939.
Bought by 1926 according to http://www.trackhead.gr/02_research_GreekArtillery.html

224 75mm Howitzer - same remarks as as 219 above

268 149mm How Bty - it was Skoda M.14 (as the weapon's name and http://www.trackhead.gr/02_research_GreekArtillery.html show), but there were only 11, and it was on-map weapon, with range up to 8760 m (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_cm_...dhaubitze_M_14 ). Range 209 is way too big.

Seems from the page quoted above and http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...?f=12&t=158435 that Greece had no off-map heavy arty

269,270,273,275 18 Pdr Howitzer - precisely, US version of 18pdr M1917 http://www.trackhead.gr/02_research_GreekArtillery.html

274,277 6in Field How/Bty - by 1941 they were ancient 6in BL Vickers 30cwt, not 26 cwt - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_6-inch_30_cwt_howitzer - range 201 is too big for unit 274. As for unit 277, there could have been newer 26cwt given by the British after fall of Greece, so it can remain an off-map arty.

320-327 mountain guns - same remarks, as above:

320,324 65mm Mtn Gun - icon should be single-tail 2108.

321, 325 75mm Mtn Gun - as unit 27.

As for units in class 16 Inf.Spt. Gun (25, 27, 46, 47) it seems from this TOE http://ww2greece.wargaming.info/TOandEs.htm, that the only gun used in infantry regiments was 65mm. The rest could be removed as Inf.spt.guns, especially, that there was no chance of substitution 65mm mobile guns with 105mm field howitzers. So these weapons are more correct in their 320-327 entries.

322,326 105mm Mtn Gun - as unit 46.

323,327 150mm Mtn Gun - no sIG-33 used.

462 37mm AT-Gun - in 1943, 37mm Bofors seems more probable, than Pak, and with British rifles (photo is correct).

471 MG34 - the same photo, not proper for MG-34.

476 20mm SPAA - in fact, such vehicles were also used from around 1938 until 4/41 (with German Flak guns on trucks)

503 BR 2 Pdr Portee - photo is 6pdr, should be 12536


Greece used also 13mm Hotchkiss AAMG http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...58435&start=30
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