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Default Re: Cross country speeds

I have redone the cross country spreadsheet. It now contains Max speeds and Cross Country speeds in hexes and is attached to this post.
The new attached updated spreadsheet lists each of the book vehicles in every OOB they appear in. In this post is limited data for just a few OObs for example.
I have only listed vehices that appear in my books. The list could be easily expanded by using the internet.
I think the vehicles Max hex speed should be one third of real speed? It often isnt. This discrepency is listed in the spreadsheet as the ratio, Book Max Speed/Game Max Speed.
Light weight versions of some vehicles are often faster in your data than the origional. This is usually not right because the gearing is unchanged. Kangaroo is an eample of this, these are corrected in the sreadsheet according to the book values.
Unlisted SP guns using listed tank chassis probably have similar values to original tank chassis values, like stug, ISU etc.
USA unit 001 Combt car M1 has book cross country speed of 15-20 I used 18.
Yugoslavia unit 100 AEC Mk II is class light tank should be heavy AC?
Slovac Republic unit 32 PzKw IIc is class armoured car should be tank?
Spain unit 417 CV-35 is class armoured car should be light tankette?
BT tanks are exceptional. Power to weight ratio is 36.5 (T34 is 19). Difficult to see if book quoted Max speeds are for tracks on or off, probably off.
Several tanks have different speeds according to which OOB they are in. Mainly small OOBs like Greece Spanish. These are corrected in the sreadsheet.

From my previous post, the LRDG do have sand ramps but these dont count because they are only used after being bogged?
The only modifications these vehicles had were desert tyres and the doors and roof removed.
LRDG is still very heavy, 1.361 kg and a long wheelbase, 134" compared to a kubelwagon 715 kg, wheelbase 94" which also has desert tyres, but also a flat bottom and the motor over the drive wheels, not over the undriven axel as in the LDGR.

Nation Vehicle Book Game Book Game
Road Road RoughRough
SpeedSpeedDiffSpeedSpeedDiff
Hex Hex Hex Hex Hex Hex
France AMC 34 YR 13 13 0 10 6 4
France AMC 35 13 13 0 10 6 4
France AMR 33 VM 18 18 0 10 9 1
France AMR-35 20 20 0 10 10 0
France Char B 11 9 2 5 4 1
France Char B bis 9 8 1 5 4 1
France Char B ter 9 10 1 5 5 0
France FCM 2C/bis 4 6 2 2 3 1
France FCM 36 8 8 0 4 4 0
France FT-17 3 6 3 2 3 1
France H-35 9 11 2 4 5 1
France H-39 12 12 0 5 6 1
France R-35 6 8 2 4 4 0
France R-40 7 8 1 4 4 0
France Renault 40 7 8 1 4 4 0
France Renault D1 6 6 0 3 3 0
France Renault D2 8 8 0 5 4 1
France Somua S-35 16 14 2 7 7 0
Germany Flakpanzer 38 14 14 0 6 7 1
Germany Jagdpanther 15 15 0 5 7 2
Germany Jagdtiger 11 12 1 4 6 2
Germany JPz IV/48 F/1&213 13 0 5 6 1
Germany JPz IV/70V 12 12 0 5 6 1
Germany Kfz 70 Protze 23 20 3 11 10 1
Germany Las 762 18 13 5 6 6 0
Germany Marder I 37L 12 12 0 2 6 4
Germany Marder I 39H 12 12 0 2 6 4
Germany Marder II 13 14 1 6 7 1
Germany Marder III H 16 13 3 6 6 0
Germany Marder III M 16 14 2 6 7 1
Germany Moebelwagen 13 14 1 6 7 1
Germany Nashorn 13 13 0 5 6 1
Germany Ostwind 12 13 1 6 6 0
Germany Panther 15 17 2 10 8 2
Germany Panzerjager I 10 14 4 3 7 4
Germany Hetzer 14 13 1 5 6 1
Germany PzKpfw 38t 14 14 0 5 7 2
Germany PzKpfw I A 12 13 1 4 6 2
Germany PzKpfw I B 13 13 0 4 6 2
Germany PzKpfw I C 22 26 4 11 13 2
Germany PzKpfw I F 8 9 1 4 4 0
Germany PzKpfw II A/B/C13 14 1 6 7 1
Germany PzKpfw II D 18 17 1 6 8 2
Germany PzKpfw II E/F 18 14 4 6 7 1
Germany PzKpfw II Luchs20 18 2 15 9 6
Germany Pz III E/F/G 13 14 1 5 7 2
Germany PzKpfw III H 13 13 0 5 6 1
Germany Pz III J/L/N 13 13 0 6 6 0
Germany PzKpfw IV B 13 13 0 6 6 0
Germany PzKpfw IV D 13 14 1 6 7 1
Germany PzKpfw IV E 13 13 0 6 6 0
Germany PzKpfw IV F 1 13 14 1 6 7 1
Germany PzKpfw IV F 2/G13 13 0 6 6 0
Germany SdKfz 11 18 18 0 7 9 2
Germany SdKfz 222/221 27 27 0 13 13 0
Germany SdKfz 231 (6) 23 23 0 11 11 0
Germany SdKfz 231 (8) 28 28 0 10 14 4
Germany SdKfz 233 28 28 0 10 14 4
Germany SdKfz 234 28 28 0 10 14 4
Germany SdKfz 251 17 17 0 7 8 1
Germany SdKfz 251/1 17 18 1 8 9 1
Germany SdKfz 8 17 14 3 7 7 0
Germany Sturmpanzer IV 13 12 1 8 6 2
Germany Tiger I 13 13 0 3 6 3
Germany Tiger II 13 13 0 5 6 1
Germany Wirbelwind 13 14 1 6 7 1
G.B. A.10 8 9 1 4 4 0
G.B. A.10 CS 8 8 0 4 4 0
G.B. A.9 13 13 0 8 6 2
G.B. A13 Mk I 16 16 0 12 8 4
G.B. A13 Mk II 16 16 0 7 8 1
G.B. A33 13 13 0 6 6 0
G.B. Archer 8 11 3 4 5 1
G.B. Avenger 17 18 1 10 9 1
G.B. Bishop 8 10 2 3 5 2
G.B. Black Prince 6 7 1 4 3 1
G.B. Cavalier 13 17 4 7 8 1
G.B. Centaur 14 16 2 8 8 0
G.B. Centurion Mk.1 11 11 0 8 5 3
G.B. Challenger A.30 17 18 1 8 9 1
G.B. ChurllIII/IV 8 8 0 4 4 0
G.B. ChurllVII/VIII 7 8 1 4 4 0
G.B. Comet A.34 15 17 2 8 8 0
G.B. Covenator 16 18 2 13 9 4
G.B. Cromwell I 21 22 1 9 11 2
G.B. Cromwell IV 17 18 1 9 9 0
G.B. Cromwell VI 17 20 3 9 10 1
G.B. Cromwell VII 17 18 1 9 9 0
G.B. Cromwell VIII 17 18 1 9 9 0
G.B. Crusader Mk VI 14 15 1 8 7 1
G.B. Grant 14 12 2 8 6 2
G.B. Honey AOP 19 21 2 10 10 0
G.B. Honey Recce 19 24 5 10 12 2
G.B. MK II-MK III 16 16 0 10 8 2
G.B. MK VIB/C 19 19 0 13 9 4
G.B. M10 17 pdr 16 17 1 10 8 2
G.B. M22 Locust 21 20 1 16 10 6
G.B. Matilda Mk I 4 6 2 3 3 0
G.B. Matilda Mk II 8 8 0 4 4 0
G.B. Priest/Kangaroo 14 14 0 8 7 1
G.B. Sexton 13 13 0 10 6 4
G.B. Sherman 13 13 0 8 6 2
G.B. Stuart/Honey 19 20 1 10 10 0
G.B. Tetrarch 21 22 1 15 11 4
G.B. Valentine 8 8 0 4 4 0
G.B. Vickers Medium 9 7 2 5 3 2
G.B. Vickers Valiant 6 11 5 3 5 2
S.U. BT-2/5 37 17 2 16 8 8
S.U. BT-7 25 17 8 16 8 8
S.U. BT-7M 29 17 1 16 8 8
S.U. IS-1 12 12 0 8 6 2
S.U. KV-1 12 10 2 6 5 1
S.U. KV-1 M1941 12 12 0 6 6 0
S.U. KV-1s 13 14 1 8 7 1
S.U. KV-2 9 9 0 5 4 1
S.U. KV-8 12 12 0 6 6 0
S.U. KV-8.s 13 14 1 8 7 1
S.U. KV-85 12 12 0 6 6 0
S.U. T-26 9 10 1 6 5 1
S.U. T-28 12 12 0 6 6 0
S.U. T-34 18 18 0 13 9 4
S.U. T-34-85 17 18 17 1 11 9 2
S.U. T-35 10 10 0 6 5 1
S.U. T-37 12 12 0 8 6 2
S.U. T-38 15 15 0 8 7 1
S.U. T-40 15 15 0 10 7 3
S.U. T-44 17 17 0 13 8 5
S.U. T-50 18 17 1 13 8 5
S.U. T-60 15 15 0 10 7 3
S.U. T-70 17 15 2 10 7 3
USA 105 GMC M7 14 14 0 8 7 1
USA 155 GMC M12 13 14 1 6 7 1
USA 90 GMC M36 16 15 1 9 7 2
USA Combt car M1 24 24 0 9 12 3
USA M10 76mm 16 17 1 10 8 2
USA M18 GMC Hellcat 24 27 3 10 13 3
USA M22 locust 21 20 1 16 10 6
USA M24 Chaffee 19 17 2 13 8 5
USA M26 Pershing 11 15 4 2 7 5
USA M2A2 "Mae-West" 15 21 6 9 10 1
USA M2A4 15 20 5 9 10 1
USA M3 /A1 19 20 1 10 10 0
USA M3 Lee 14 12 2 8 6 2
USA M30 Carrier 13 14 1 6 7 1
USA M39 24 27 3 10 13 3
USA M3A3 19 17 2 10 8 2
USA M3A3/M3A5 14 13 1 8 6 2
USA M4 Duplex Drive 13 12 1 8 6 2
USA M4 Sherman 13 13 0 8 6 2
USA M40 155mm GMC 13 14 1 6 7 1
USA M4A3 105 15 13 2 9 6 3
USA M5/M5A1 19 20 1 12 10 2
USA M8 16 16 0 12 8 4

The book speeds are from these books.
Chamberlain and Ellis, British and American Tanks of World War II.
Chamberlain and Milsom, Allied Combat Tanks.
Chamberlain and Ellis, Axis Combat Tanks.
Cappellano and Battistelli, Italian medium tanks 1939-45.
Cappellano and Battistelli, Italian light tanks 1919-45.
Encycopedia of WW2 weapons
Attached Files
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