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Old December 28th, 2017, 05:12 PM

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Default 90mm Tank Guns

I would like to make some comments to the 90mm tank gun in the game.
Angola didn’t have any M10, M18 & M36 TD, its bad information
In Israel you call the F1 gun as CNI, it should be called F1 instead
In France F1 has 80 range? Instead it should be changed to other countries 35
South Africa GT2 (license build F1) with Sabot Ammo? It has not, it could only fire HEAT
Chad used many EE9 Cascavel M.II captured from Libya & AML90 Lynx
Brazil didn’t have EE9 Cascavel M.II
Brazil and the other countries don’t have any Uirapuru MGs, its FN-MAG 7,62mm
Brazil never fielded EE17 Sucuri or EE18 Sucuri II
Brazil never fielded any EE9 Jararaca
Brazil never fielded EE11 Urutu with 90mm guns
Brazil never had XA-185
Brazil never had Hawk SAM
Brazil never had Tamoio or Osorio Tanks
Yugoslavia / Serbia M36B1 arrived in 1953 and used until 2005
Yugoslavia / Serbia / Bosnia / Croatia had the M47 tank with the locally made M74 HEAT from 1974 (300mm penetration, not 190mm) so they should use M36-74
M36-85 of South Korea, Pakistan, Bosnia & Croatia w/K241 ammo should all have 300mm HEAT also ,M431 for South Korea & Pakistan, M74 for Bosnia & Croatia
M41-Be83 is with the Mecar M603 APFSDS with 260mm penetration?
South Korea M41-67 should be changed to M41-65? It’s the same performance
South Korea M47 Patton (Retired in 2003, 2/3 had their M36 replaced by exM48 M41 guns from 1984)
Lebanon had M3 Halftrack with 90mm Antitank gun like Israel
There are four types of Cockerill guns:
A - Cockerill Mk.1 & 2 used in the Indonesia Commando V-150 4x4
B - Cockerill Mk.3 / EC90 & Cockerill Mk.3M-A2 no APFSDS-T, ammo Mecar M620A1 or IMBEL NR478A2 HEAT-T, factory says 250mm/90* at 1500m, it can also fire Mecar M625A1 or IMBEL NR503A3 HESH-T to maximum range of +2000m. Used by Chad, Sudan & Thailand Commando V-150 4x4, Malaysia Sibmas 6x6, Chile Piranha 6x6, Indonesia PT76B(M) Nimda, Tunisia EE11 Urutu 6x6 and all EE9 Cascavel M.III, IV & V 6x6. There cant be no EC90-88
The APFSDS built in 1988 by Engequímica de Juiz de Fora, MG (Brazil) was never series built and for use in the EC90 the gun muzzle brake had to be cut, each round cost the same as a family car, its was reported at penetrating 300mm/90* at 1100m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUVKVCjBv60
C - Cockerill Mk.3M-A1 with a single-baffle muzzle brake for firing Mecar M652A1 APFSDS-T, factory says 200mm/90* at +1500m. Used by Indonesia, Malaysia & Nigeria Scorpion 90 and Portugal & Saudi Arabia Commando V-150S 4x4
Here at 42.10 you can compare the size of a Cockerill Mk.3M-A1 in the Commando V-150S with a Mauser Mk.2 30mm of the Pandur II, you can also see that Portuguese gun has a simple muzzle brake, making it able to fire APFSDS-T, the model was bought specifically to fire APFSDS-T to be able to defeat ERA armour, the vehicle is too light for the gun, vehicle crews suffer hard when firing APFSDS-T
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSnYz7kUaoA
D - Cockerill Mk.8 firing Mecar M690A1 APFSDS-T(300mm/90* at 2000m, 260mm/90* at 3000m) and Mecar M691A2 HESH-T. Used by Belgium Piranha IIIC 8x8, Gulf states (Qatar) Piranha II 8x8, Gulf states (Kuwait) Pandur 6x6 and Saudi Arabia LAV-AG 8x8

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