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Old September 17th, 2013, 06:38 PM

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Default Re: Polish OOB2 corrections/suggestions (v.6)

Another part of shallow digging through plethora of infantry units... Their structures and weapons should be examined deeply, but maybe next year.

287 Rifle Squad - picture 30211 without LMG will be more appropriate

310, 311 Obrona Naradowa - should be Narodowa.

313 Patrol - has a picture of marksman. 15000 could be, as used for #312

318 Rifle Section - picture 30553 seems better, than some soldiers with Sherman (used as mech patrol)

322, 323 Engineer Sec - soldiers on the photo looks rather like Germans to me. Maybe 30553 will do.

324, 327 Engineer Squad - photo 30211 looks better for a French period

325, 326 Engineer Squad - photo 30220 looks better for engineers (not charging on bayonets)


Off-map Artillery

Now 1939 artillery is organized this way:
- Lt arty - 75 mm FG
- Med how - 100 mm FH, 105 mm FG (wz.13), 105 mm FG (wz.29)
- Hvy arty - 120 mm, 155 mm FH, 220 mm

A problem is, that in fact 100 mm FH were used in Light Arty Regiments (along with 75 mm guns), while 105 mm FG were in heavy arty units (along with 155mm FH)

If we want to be closer to original, 100 mm FH battery should be reclassified as Light Arty. There would be available a whole Lt Arty Bn with three 4-gun batteries of 75 mm or 100 mm, which is correct.

A bigger problem is, that heavy divisional arty, using 105 mm FG/155 mm FH, had a different structure (3-gun batteries), than C-in-c Heavy Arty, using same guns (4-gun batteries), plus 120 mm guns and 220 mm mortars. There's a page on 105mm guns, indicating this problem http://derela.republika.pl/105mm_wz1..._schneider.htm

There didn't exist battalions with three 3-gun 105mm batteries, like formation 358 in a present oob.
Unfortunately, it seems impossible to create real mixed off-map divisional Heavy Arty Battalions with one battery of three 105mm guns (wz.13 or wz.29) and one battery of 155mm FH.

That's why I suggest to use 3-gun 105mm and 155mm batteries as single batteries only, and not to include them in any Battalion. Unit #331 155mm How Bty should be reclassified to 10 Off-map arty, like 105mm batteries. If a player would like to create original divisional Heavy Arty Bn, he'd have to take one 3-gun 105mm Bty and one 3-gun 155mm Bty separately.

There should be created new four-gun units, modified from #99 105mm Gun Bty, #330 105mm Gun Bty and #331 155mm How Bty. All these four-gun batteries should be classified as Heavy off-map arty. Of them, 155mm howitzers should be most common.

Unit 416 120mm How Bty should be given a fourth gun to be true (you can read about them here: http://derela.republika.pl/120mm_wz78-09-31.htm).

Then, if we add one more battery to a battalion 357, there will be available heavy arty battalions with three 4-gun batteries of 105mm, 120mm or 155mm, which is correct, or with three 2-gun 220mm batteries, also correct.


Suggested changes to formations to reflect changes above:
form. 358 Med Howitzer Bn - to be removed, as non-existing. A problem is, that it might be on a pick list in assault mode (sometimes there is Lt or Hvy Bn instead).
form. 365 Med How Bty - rename eg. "Hvy Art Bty/3", "Hvy Art Bty(3)" - it will cover divisional heavy arty of 105mm guns and 155mm FH
form. 357 Heavy Art Bn - add the third battery and change template unit (331) to Off-map Hvy Arty, eg. 416
form. 367 Hvy Art Battery - rename eg. "Hvy Art Bty/4" and change template unit


332 100mm Gun Bty - should be named 100mm How Bty or FH Bty, and used from 1/30 (now 1/35)

333 81mm Mortars - if there's a choice, a secondary weapon should be shorter 144 wz.29 Carbine


Michal
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