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Old October 19th, 2017, 02:16 AM
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Fallout Re: MBT's

The ever changing world...This is why you just can't submit a piece of equipment and forget about. I have many times in the past just simply posted a couple of refs. indicating that "X" country received "R" equipment sometimes a couple of years or more later. I have done so regarding this Indonesian tank deal. There was some comprise involved to account for the MBT chosen much of related to the fact most of the information we had pointed to the LEO 2A6, specifically German UNIT 033. Due to the political nature of this deal little information was out there, but, that being said, German UNIT 033 did fit the bill for the upgraded LEO-2RI, because they received the LEO 2A4+ which was/is brought up to the 2A6 standard and with the improvements on that tank the UNIT 033 still works best.

This was submitted in Patch Post #2 for the 2012/2013 Campaign 18 February 2013. It is in both the Patch Post and MBT (Though at a later date.) Threads if further information is desired. MBT Section/Item A3.

I hope the links are still good, it's late and I'm under the weather right now and working still-SO-really don't feel like checking that at this time.

I have only kept up on this issue as is provided from my files below and hopefully in the order I got them.
https://thediplomat.com/2016/05/indo...-battle-tanks/
http://defense-studies.blogspot.com/...i-mbts-to.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/may_2..._12505163.html
https://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/...etail_1408.php
https://below-the-turret-ring.blogsp...roduction.html


What is clear is that Indonesia DID NOT chose all the options Associated with the LEO REVOLUTION. The last ref speaks for many in that regard so by example you can chose to have either the L44 or L55 MG. Again UNIT 033 was
chosen because the "RI" was to have the L55.

Everyone I'm spent right now so I have to leave it here. Have a Good Night/or Morning!

Regards,
Pat


CRAP- Almost forgot, this is from earlier this morning...

SIPRI
Transfers of major weapons: Deals with deliveries or orders made for 2010 to 2016.
Note: The ‘No. delivered’ and the ‘Year(s) of deliveries’ columns refer to all deliveries since the beginning of the contract. The ‘Comments’ column includes publicly reported information on the value of the deal. Information on the sources and methods used in the collection of the data, and explanations of the conventions, abbreviations and acronyms, can be found at URL .
Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database
Information generated: 19 October 2017

(Had to modify doc. "O" = Ordered. The "R" = Received.)

Year(s) 2010-2016

Germany (FRG)R: Indonesia
2 BPz-2 ARV O2012 R2015 (2)Second-hand; part of EUR216 m deal

3 BrPz-1 Biber ABL O2012 R2015-2016 3 Second-hand; part of EUR216 m deal

3 Buffel ARV O2012 R2016 (3) Second-hand Leopard-2 tank modified to Buffel ARV

61 Leopard-2A4 Tank O2012 R2016 40 Second-hand but modernized to Leopard-2RI before delivery; delivery 2016-2017

42 Leopard-2A4 Tank O2012 R2013-2015 42 Second-hand; part of EUR216 m deal (These should be the as used German UNIT 033 (A4+) tanks as entered already.-PJC)

(42) Marder-1A3 IFV O2012 R2013-2015 (42) Second-hand (possibly modernized before delivery; 8 more delivered for spare parts only); part of EUR216 m deal (As posted later, they were upgraded-PJC)

3 PiPz-1 AEV O2012 R2016 3 Second-hand; part of EUR216 m deal
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