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Old October 15th, 2005, 10:26 PM
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Default 1st Day after action

At LZ X-Ray that night, Moore had tightened up security and had the men dig defensive positions all around the perimeter, although he placed the bulk of them facing the mountain. On the first day, he had lost 27 dead and 6 wounded, with 13 officers and 326 men remaining. In his defense, the artillery fired 4,000 rounds.
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Old October 15th, 2005, 10:53 PM
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Sixteen helicopters in five succeeding lifts airlanded battalion elements at LZ X-ray. A Company followed B Company unopposed into the landing zone, and the perimeter expanded. C Company arrived next, with little opposition, but as the helicopters airlanded D Company, they took numerous hits. The enemy killed one infantryman before he could dismount and wounded two helicopter crewmen. Moore radioed the second flight of eight helicopters to turn back until LZ X-ray could be stabilized. Supported by artillery, air strikes from the Air Force, and division gunships, the battalion had airlanded into X-ray by 1500.
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Old October 15th, 2005, 10:58 PM
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At a distance of 2 Km south of LZ_X-ray there is marked a village by the name Anta village.

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Old October 15th, 2005, 11:27 PM
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Default Divisional Artillery support on LZ X-ray

In September the 1st Cavalry Division (Airmobile) arrived and brought with it the first U.S. Army division artillery to arrive in Vietnam.

The organization of the 1st Cavalry Division Artillery was typical of other division artilleries that followed. The division artillery consisted of three light 105-mm. howitzer battalions with three batteries of six guns each and an aerial rocket artillery battalion with thirty-nine aircraft. Most division artilleries contained three 105-mm. battalions but also included a fourth battalion of three 155-mm. howitzer batteries and one 8-inch howitzer battery. Whether aerial rocket artillery or heavy cannon artillery, the fourth battalion augmented and extended the range of the three 105-mm. battalions, each of which was in direct support of a brigade of the division.

Before the end of 1965, the remainder of the 1st Division Artillery arrived to provide support for the Big Red One in III Corps. Its organization was typical of most of the division artilleries that would arrive later, its fire power coming from three 105-mm. battalions and a composite 155-mm. and 8-inch battalion. The initial field artillery buildup also included the first few separate battalions that provided the general support and reinforcing fires needed to complement the divisional artillery.

15/10 To provide additional artillery support, Landing Zone COLUMBUS was established 4 1/2 kilometers to the northeast of X-RAY. This landing zone was midway between X-RAY and FALCON, where Batteries A and C of the 1st Battalion, 21st Artillery, were located. Battery B of the 1st Battalion, 21st Artillery, and Battery C of the 2d Battalion, 17th Artillery, were now moved into COLUMBUS.

The enemy broke contact and filtered back into the mountains after suffering tremendous losses. He was pursued with heavy firepower: cannon artillery continually pounded the area; Air Force tactical air provided continuous support with a fighter bomber on a target run on an average of once every fifteen minutes; but the most devastating support was provided by B-52 bombers which struck without warning six kilometers west of X-RAY. Though the bombers had been employed initially in Vietnam some six months earlier, this was their first use in direct support of U.S. troops on a tactical operation. For the next five days, the big bombers systematically bombed large areas of the Chu Pong Massif.



p.s PleiMe battle:
On the morning of 26 October, the Vietnamese task force conducted a sweep around the Plei Me camp. Five minutes after noon the task force encountered mortar, small-arms, and recoilless rifle fire. The force immediately took casualties and faltered. The two batteries of the 2d Battalion, 19th Artillery, responded at once with supporting fires, which enabled the task force to regroup, withstand the attack, and take the offensive.
Of the three North Vietnamese Army regiments, the 33d had been particularly hard hit. When the unit attacked Plei Me, its strength was 2,190 men. In actions against the 1st Brigade, the regiment had lost 890 men killed, more, than 100 missing, and still more suffering incapacitating wounds. Materiel losses had also been heavy. The regiment lost 13 of its 18 antiaircraft guns as well as 11 mortar tubes and most of its recoilless rifles.

p.s ***opponents:Reacting swiftly to the cavalry landings, the enemy Field Front ordered the 66th Regiment to attack the landing zone. Strong elements of the regiment were established on the ridge line overlooking the landing zone to provide a base of fire for the attack. The 9th and 7th Battalions of the 66th and a composite battalion of the 33d (the combined forces of what remained of the 2d and 3d Battalions) provided the initial assault forces.
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Default Re: Divisional Artillery support on LZ X-ray

Do a combo.

1. Do the mini-campaign, maybe have it as a totaly seperate chapter? Which was what I was thinking.

If that's the case you have to ask your self a Question. Do you want to do the whole battlion in each senario, say 50 turns each (About 5 hours) that way you wouldn't need to worry about ammo resupply as such (About 5 Senario's).

Or do you want to do it by focusing each of the companies (About 15 senario's!)?

Personly I'd go with the whole battlion. On each of the units work out a way of decreaseing the amount of men as caslties start being applied. we could even with careful work, work out which units lost whom, and apply them. It would also alow greater control over support assests.

2. Release the Big Battle to the public, as a hint of what we're working on here, and start getting them intrested. Sort of Baiting the water's.

The other Question is, are we going to include LZ Albany?
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Default Re: Divisional Artillery support on LZ X-ray

David,

LZ albany will be covered in the 1st CAV Vietnam Campaign, for the moment lets focus on the LZ X-ray battle.

There are so many technicalities for this battle that I will start a new thread for this reason.

There is a very important parameter that we have to find a way to simulate: The rate of attrition because of combat casualties.

In such close combat we have to test a lot in order to assure that the units will behave the way they should behave.

There is always the danger that after 10 - 15 turns none unit will be present in the map (all killed)... :

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From LCol Moore's AAR they captured 82mm mortars, and he also states they used RPGs as "arty support".
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Default Re: mortars

Found 'em!
Mortars:
At 1315 1st paltoon of Bravo Co, was hit my 60mm and 82mm mortar fire.
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