.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

winSPWW2- Save $6.00
World Supremacy- Save $8.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Illwinter Game Design > Dominions 3: The Awakening

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #171  
Old July 28th, 2008, 03:33 AM
HoneyBadger's Avatar

HoneyBadger HoneyBadger is offline
General
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,445
Thanks: 85
Thanked 79 Times in 51 Posts
HoneyBadger is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names

I'm mad as a hatter, Omnirizon, but I do try to separate criticism from insult.
__________________
You've sailed off the edge of the map--here there be badgers!
Reply With Quote
  #172  
Old July 28th, 2008, 06:59 AM

Agema Agema is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 792
Thanks: 28
Thanked 45 Times in 31 Posts
Agema is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names

It's important to remember that people are not perfect and that shades of grey exist. A person can make a hypocritical argument, but not be a hypocrite, a person can make a stupid or bull**** argument without being stupid or a bull****ter. It is is fair to call an argument what it is, without extending the description of the argument to the author. Some more immature people will instantly transmute a criticism such as "That's a stupid opinion..." with "You are stupid". However, if on the receiving end, most of us I think could just take that for what it is - a comment on what we said, not ourselves.

However, an author could defuse even the possibility two ways, a nice idea with people he/she don't know. Firstly he can use non-inflammatory language in the first place, say maybe "I think there's an error in your logic". The second would be to remove the possibility of personal criticism or to compliment first, such as "I don't think you're an idiot, but that opinion is stupid" or "You've made some good points, but opinion X is stupid."

A final note is tone. If you call someone's opinion stupid in what is mostly a calm and balanced comment, they don't generally get bad feeling from the whole and are less likely think it is an attack. If you call someone's opinion stupid in a comment that's polemical, sarcastic, or mocking, it is likely to *feel* like an attack.

Some people can be flagrantly disrespectful of others in that sort of way, and I find such excuses as "I didn't call you stupid, just your argument" and "if you're offended that's your problem" just bull****. Tone and context are as vital to communication as the literal meaning of words themselves. People who don't seem to realise that can be split into two camps: those who are genuinely unaware, thus socially inept and need to learn; and those who are aware and want to troll with disingenuous claims of innocence.
Reply With Quote
  #173  
Old July 28th, 2008, 01:07 PM

johan osterman johan osterman is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 883
Thanks: 0
Thanked 13 Times in 5 Posts
johan osterman is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names

This thread could provide the lift for a medium sized blimp.
Reply With Quote
  #174  
Old July 28th, 2008, 01:23 PM
Ballbarian's Avatar

Ballbarian Ballbarian is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Kansas, USA
Posts: 1,538
Thanks: 289
Thanked 194 Times in 94 Posts
Ballbarian will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names

__________________
RanDom v2 - Map gen & Semirandomizer.
Province Editor - Custom province creation made easier.
God Editor - Custom pretender creation made easier.
Map Forge - Map editor
Reply With Quote
  #175  
Old July 28th, 2008, 04:23 PM

MaxWilson MaxWilson is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 2,497
Thanks: 165
Thanked 105 Times in 73 Posts
MaxWilson is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names

As the OP, do I have the right to say, "Okay, we're OT so let's shut it down please"? We settled it on the very first page that nobody actually thinks using real names in the game is worth worrying about, and I regret that the thread failed to gracefully die after that.

-Max
__________________
Bauchelain - "Qwik Ben iz uzin wallhax! HAX!"
Quick Ben - "lol pwned"

["Memories of Ice", by Steven Erikson. Retranslated into l33t.]
Reply With Quote
  #176  
Old July 28th, 2008, 08:25 PM
JimMorrison's Avatar

JimMorrison JimMorrison is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Utopia, Oregon
Posts: 2,676
Thanks: 83
Thanked 143 Times in 108 Posts
JimMorrison is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names

Does it upset you Max? I thought the thread had "degenerated" into a rather interesting discussion that is actually somewhat OT, as far as staying true to the original question, but extrapolated out beyond the scope of just the game community itself.

<3
Reply With Quote
  #177  
Old July 28th, 2008, 08:44 PM

Agema Agema is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 792
Thanks: 28
Thanked 45 Times in 31 Posts
Agema is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names

If you strike this discussion down, it will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine!
Reply With Quote
  #178  
Old September 21st, 2008, 04:01 PM

JaghataiKhan JaghataiKhan is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 145
Thanks: 3
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
JaghataiKhan is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names

Quote:
Commissioner Pravin Lal said: As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.
Best quote ever. Also, I am offended by seeing blood slaves drugged! THEY ARE PROMOTING DRUG USAGE! OH NOES!

Reply With Quote
  #179  
Old September 22nd, 2008, 05:23 AM

Agema Agema is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 792
Thanks: 28
Thanked 45 Times in 31 Posts
Agema is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names

Quick, get an H3 priest to cast banish, this thread has risen from the dead!
Reply With Quote
  #180  
Old September 22nd, 2008, 05:49 AM
Humakty's Avatar

Humakty Humakty is offline
Second Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: country of stinky fromages
Posts: 564
Thanks: 29
Thanked 15 Times in 13 Posts
Humakty is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names

I would gladly banish it, but I can't cast for the moment, people are arguing about pagan priests being able to call divine power. And we don't drug our slaves, we allow them to reach a state of beatitude so that they don't complain all the time.(a robe is not much, especially in winter)
__________________
10 times more numerous, by nigth and backstabbing.

Senior member of the GLIN !

Last edited by Humakty; September 22nd, 2008 at 05:55 AM..
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2018, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.