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Old June 18th, 2006, 07:50 PM

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Currently the Slovak OOB runs up until 1943. While presence of Slovak units fighting alongside Germans ended in 1943, the Slovak army did not vanish into thin air, and in 1944 several units of it took part in Slovak Uprising, fighting against their former allies. Any chances for extending Slovak OOB until end of 1944 (by December 1944 regular Slovak army was dissolved and remnants fought as partisans) ?
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Old June 18th, 2006, 08:14 PM

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If I'm not mistaken the units you're referring to (those fighting against the germans) are considered to be part of the Czechoslovakian OB.

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Old June 19th, 2006, 03:01 AM

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Yup, Slovakian Uprising units are in CZK OOB mostly.
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Hallo all
If it is possible one change should be made. Slovakia should start in 3/39. At first Slovakia declared independence on 14th march 1939 and the first slovak war was defence against hungarian invasion on 23th to 26th march 1939.
The uprising against Germans started on 29th august 1944.
However there still exist some slovak units loyal to Germany. These units (2 infantry regiments, artillery regiment and anti-aircraft reg.) formed "Domobrana" and ceased to exist early in 1945 (as whole Slovakia).
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Old June 28th, 2006, 11:54 AM
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So I thing the Slovakia OOB should be to the end 12/1946 why?
To the August 1944 slovak forces stay on the axis side and all was simple. Upspring forces cmposed from regular Slovakia units and partisants declares reunion of Czech and Slovakia and fights under Czechoslovakia flag so schuld be put in Czechoslovakia OOB. But Slovakian Forces on german side fight to the end in may 1945 as a slovakian forces. This game represents version of history where war was to the 1946 so slovakian units loyal for german should be aviable to this date I thing in the slovakian OOB.
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Hallo Blazejos
I think that Slovakia should end in early 1945 because at first that two infantry regiments ceased to exist completely and above all whole territory of Slovakia was under allied control since the end of april 1945.
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Default Re: Slovakia OOB

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Currently the Slovak OOB runs up until 1943. While presence of Slovak units fighting alongside Germans ended in 1943, the Slovak army did not vanish into thin air, and in 1944 several units of it took part in Slovak Uprising, fighting against their former allies. Any chances for extending Slovak OOB until end of 1944 (by December 1944 regular Slovak army was dissolved and remnants fought as partisans) ?

Apparently explaining this in the Game Guide was a total waste of my time. Why I bother is increasingly a mystery to me.

No, the Slovakian armed forces did not "vanish into thin air" but for the purposes and scope of this GAME they did.

A few construction units and some third rate security units do not make for much of a game unless they are set up in a sceanrio and it's dead simple to build a scenario using the existing units to represent some partisan hunt or uprising. I could have easily let that OOB run to the end of the war with those type of units but then someone ELSE would have complained about the crappy forces they encountered when they played their campaign as the Russians in 1944 and Slovakia was one of their opponents

If you want to model the uprising using "Slovak" troops you can do that with only a little bit of ingenuity with the sceanrio editor but "Slovakia" ended being a serious opponent after the Mobile Division was pulled from the lines due to heavy losses and the 2nd Slovak Infantry Division was disarmed and transferred to Italy as a "construction brigade" and that is when we decided to end the Slovak OOB

And yes..... I know the Czech OOB only has a token force of partisans until Nov 1943 and they are usless in a "real" game as well but including them was a design decision based on a number of factors as was ending Slovakia when we did

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Two Photos of slovakian falmshirmjagers

http://www.odkrywca.pl/forum_pics/picsforum4/juyhu.jpg
http://www.odkrywca.pl/forum_pics/pi...lovakpara1.jpg
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Your point? You could just use German paras and edit the unit specs!
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