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Old September 8th, 2020, 08:22 PM
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I suspect they will Wulfir.
I have no clue what a Swedish Amphibious Battalion consists of but it sounds like an interesting variant. I'd be careful about giving the Muj off-map (or even on-map) artillery/rocket assets. It's not like you could smuggle a howitzer battery into the city in the trunk of a vehicle.

I'd considered make the map larger but I wanted to give the USMC player the option to make a slow advance to try to keep casualties to the minimum. It's not that I expect the Muj to win currently. I'm considering using the editor to dramatically increase the cost of USMC units thus forcing the player to avoid loosing units.

Sound like an idea?
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Old September 9th, 2020, 02:26 PM
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I have no clue what a Swedish Amphibious Battalion consists of but it sounds like an interesting variant.
I like to try out my custom OOB, find errors all the time. Sigh.

The reason I enlarged the map is because I now have more units and yeah it gets crowded. The Swedish Amphibious Corps is sometimes called “the Swedish marines” but it’s a somewhat erroneous comparison – unlike the USMC the Coastal Ranger companies and later Amphibious Battalions belonged to an organization that primarily was tasked with defending a coastline, not attacking it.

Troops from this organization has been used in Africa and around the time the scenario takes place there was a shift of priority in Sweden from national defence to international efforts, so a mission in Fallujah while unlikely is not entirely out there for a possible what if.

For comparison my OOB is roughly:

Amphibious Bn Group

- AmfBat (HQ and support incl. EOD Platoon and 81mm mortars, Costal Ranger Company (this is basically a recon asset with attack diver and Coastal Ranger platoons) and three Amphibious Rifle Companies)

- Naval Security Company (this is an anti-Special Forces type of unit tasked with protecting naval assets unlikely to be deployed to ferret out terrorists in a mid east town, but I wanted to try them out).

- Transport (a company of Patria APCs, a platoon of RG-32 cars)

- Air-mobile Squadron (Army company, no helicopters)

Iraqi Army Battalion Size force


- SF Company

- Two Rifle Companies

- Sapper Company

- Swedish Army Advisors (Ranger Platoon)

- Swedish Pbv-501 Company (modified BMP-1s, that IIRC ended up sold to Iraq).


Mech Group

- Tank Platoon (Strv122)

- CV90 Company

- Engineer tank section

- Pioneer Company (no transport)

Special Forces/Recon


- Four SOG Teams

- Four Paratrooper Teams

- Two Augusta transport helicopters

- Six UAVs


Air and Artillery support


- One 155mm MRSI battery (off map)

- One 105mm Battery (towed – on map

- Four strike elements (8 JAS 39)

- Several Ammo supply units


Much of my force have 6-8 man strong squads and can’t take much punishment. The Muj holes up in buildings and fight to the death which seems highly realistic but is problematic for me to deal with. I avoid going into those point blank range knife fights if they can be avoided. I have not tried to use my engineer tanks like the D9s yet, i.e. razing buildings with Muj in them. Attack helicopters would have been nice but we have none so...

I led the attack with the Iraqis – not in a reckless fashion or anything – but they have taken the most losses...

The Crotale zapped one of my Gripen jets. That single loss is going to cost me...

I will probably need the full 90 turns, more or less, to gain all the Victory Hexes...
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Just finished and "Stalingrad in the sand" is a good description.

I got 1 4:1 MV in 61 turns having lost 389 men, 3 AFVs (2 to ATGMs and one to an IED), 2 drones, and a Harrier. I don't think I could have kept my losses low enough to get a DV.

Some minor changes I would make:

1. Move the LAV25s onto the road at the start. They currently start in rough hexes and have to though several more. Two of mine got stuck at the start.

2. Increase the value of the High Value Target.

3. Lower the total number of turns to 65.

Thanks for making such a fun scenario.
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3. Lower the total number of turns to 65.
Hmmm, warning... RetLT is an expert player...

I'm making use of the number of turns trying not to rush things - and I think I'll need them all pretty much if I'm going to keep losses down...
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Some minor changes I would make:

1. Move the LAV25s onto the road at the start. They currently start in rough hexes and have to though several more. Two of mine got stuck at the start.

2. Increase the value of the High Value Target.

3. Lower the total number of turns to 65.
#1 - Moved them onto the road BUT they now enter turn #3.
#2 - Done
#3 - Changed to 72
#4 - Increased the cost of all USMC units to a minimum of 5 points per man. You can totally eliminate the insurgents but still lose the scenario if your casualties are to high.
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