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Old January 11th, 2018, 03:48 AM
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Fallout Re: MBT's

From two posts ago, my apologies, LUCH is the design company. Alright I'll do it to me, for you - !

How to do this? First you must read the provided info, what it is, the purpose of, different calibers available of the type, most provide charts and platforms used on.

I'm splitting up the main ref, which will be at the bottom of this. The sources are the Ukraine's sales and defense industry sites as both are together on the site. The following are taken from that site and treated individually.

1. The 30mm ZTM-1 automatic cannon and the ZTM-2 have become the main weapon of choice for the Ukraine intended for APC/ACV/AIFV/IFV (Specific application equipage shown. This applies to all the rest as well as posted.) and attack helos as noted. Ukraine has mounted these with the associated turrets and others as indicated within this article. Currently in service.
https://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/vooruz...-ztm-1-i-ztm-2


2. The man-portable anti-tank guided missile system SKIF this is their "Heavy Hitter" at 130mm and 152mm calibers. This is a general all around system from anti-personnel to bunker busting. Pretty impressive from some videos I've seen. Coming into or recently has entered service.
https://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/vooruz...-kompleks-skif


3. The anti-tank missile system BARYE designed to be used with the SHKVAL turret (Like #1 above.) on the platforms as noted. Currently in service.
https://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/vooruz...kompleks-barer


4. “CORSAR” light portable missile system close in support system in service with Max. Rng. of 2500m.
https://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/vooruz...mpleks--korsar


5. “Bar’er-V” helicopter antitank missile system as currently used on their attack helos. This is an upgrade issue for the Ukraine OOB on their helos. This is a long range, heavy 130mm ATGM with a very high hit probability. In service.
https://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/vooruz...mpleks-barer-v

6. The anti-tank precision-guided missile R-111 STUGNA designed for 100mm/115mm platform weapons as noted in the article. In service.
https://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/vooruz...-100-mm-stugna

7. The anti-tank guided missile systems KOMBAT and KONUS these are the "main events" with the difference being simply that KOMBAT is fully operational in the platforms as listed in para. This is where the Russian REFLEX & BASTION are also addressed in comparison and otherwise. A very effective system that is getting a lot of attention. This missile will be if I remember correctly, be part of the Pakistani deal with the Ukraine to update the 300+ T-80UD tanks Pakistan bought from the Ukraine.
KONUS is also available to meet 120mm NATO standard tank guns. Though it also supports the Ukraine's T-84-120 YATAGAN which is in service as a Test Bed platform. It should be noted, at the time it was considered one of the more advanced MBT's in the world. Both in service.
https://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/vooruz...kombat-i-konus
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t84_yatagan.htm
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product2807.html


It's getting late the next three weapons cover the 100mm/105mm and 115mm ATGM systems. REFLEX should've been phased out of front line service by this past year. Here's the main ref.
https://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/vooruzhenie-i-boepripasi


Alright already touched on this and it'll touch I believe on the topic that the U.S. has lifted the restriction on the Ukraine to buy from defense contractors (U.S.)...
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-se...kraine-2017-12
https://warisboring.com/american-ant...ng-to-ukraine/
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump...ry?id=51235203
http://fortune.com/2017/12/23/trump-...siles-ukraine/


A couple of the refs. above do make the distinction of the "old" versus the "newer" systems. Of the above systems outlined, I believe the "SKIF" to be the oldest (DEC 2008.) though it's been updated. Remember nobody in the West wants to see the Ukraine back under Russian control. They've been receiving a lot of management, engineering and technical assistance before and more so since the Russian incursion.
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/05/2...rmy/#arvlbdata
http://www.usubc.org/site/aerospace-...ade-in-ukraine
https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/...apons-1.354534


Isn't wonderful how conflict spurs innovation?

I've got a busy day later this morning before work, so, Good Night!

Regards,
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1. The 30mm ZTM-1 automatic cannon and the ZTM-2 have become the main weapon of choice for the Ukraine intended for APC/ACV/AIFV/IFV (Specific application equipage shown. This applies to all the rest as well as posted.) and attack helos as noted. Ukraine has mounted these with the associated turrets and others as indicated within this article. Currently in service.
https://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/vooruz...-ztm-1-i-ztm-2
I'll go through all this BUT.......

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The State Enterprise Research and Engineering Complex ‘Precision Mechanics Plant’ in Kamyanets-Podilsky has launched series production of a comprehensive range of hand gun and artillery weapons, including the 30mm ZTM-1 automatic cannon (similar in its outlay design and performance capabilities to the Soviet-designed 30mm 2A72 automatic cannon) and the ZTM-2 automatic cannon (Ukrainian designed equivalent of the Soviet-vintage 2A42).
So ZTM-1 = 30mm 2A72 and ZTM-2 = 2A42 so what I am going to do is rename the existing weapons NOT create 2+ dozen duplicates using the same two weapons under a different name
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Fallout Re: MBT's

Though still a PITA by degrees, I didn't expect it to be more than what you're doing concerning the ZTM. My concern was to straighten out the what I was seeing as the convoluted mess the whole ATGM/ATGW Ukrainian issue seemed to "nose diving" into. I hope that mission was accomplished to a satisfactory level. Thanks!

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