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Old March 10th, 2017, 01:25 AM

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Default ATR Wpn OOB Corrections

Andy/Don,

1. As to the ATR accuracy revisions previously in 2-16 range, while you caught the OOB 16 duplication of Wpn 90 & 142, the wpn correction (just cut and paste values from OOB 16 - wpn #90) was missed in the following OOBs:
OOB 1 - wpn #96. Acc = 2 / HEAT Pen = 2.
Plus wpns #173 / 178 seem to be duplicated?
OOB 33 - Wpn 133. Incorrect Accuracy (32 vs corr 16) & Missing HE kill = 1.
OOB 35 - wpn 134 - Correct.
OOB 37 - wpn 96. Acc 2 vs corr 16.
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And, in OOB 16, with the PzB 39 (unit 114) accurately coming out in 9/39 (just 703 Panzerbüchse 38 produced in 1939), this leaves - in the words of George C Scott as the mad General in Dr Strangelove - an 'ATR Gap' in unit class 2- Inf-AT from 6/38 thru 8/39 inclusive.
Therefore, unit #417, the 13.2mm Mauser, needs a correction of end-date to 10/39 (overlap of 2 months to allow for PzB 38/39 replacement), as previously noted in 2011.
This avoids the German 'ATR Gap' har.

2. Plus, in OOB 21 - it is highly doubtful the-then scarce PzB 38/39 ATRs (wpn 88) would have been available to an overseas export client in 9/39 (units 33 & 500). Therefore, revise their start date to 8/40 or 9/40 (after fall of France) and check if any formations require adjustment.

3. And in OOB 33 - cut and paste wpn 88 from OOB 16 to correct inaccuracies. Range 10 vs incorrect 13, and Missing Sabot Pen / Range.

4. Also, the values for the Polish 7.92 kb.Ur wz35 ATR or Marosheck in foreign service are incorrect for following OOBs:
OOB 1 - wpn 142. Most values incorrect.
OOB 34 - wpn 135. Incorrect Acc 18 vs corr 38.

I think that was it for ATRs.

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Mark
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Old March 10th, 2017, 06:06 PM

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Default Re: ATR Wpn OOB Corrections

FYI, I have now had time to check the modification of the start date for both units in OOB 21 to 8/40. This definitely does Not affect formation stability for either unit so should be ok.


(A) Also, I have to Correct a minor Error I made back in 2011 as to my thinking regarding the ammo loadout of the PzB M.SS.41 (40 AP / 10 Sabot) - wpn 137 - unit 603.
For the following reasons the PzB M.SS.41 needs to be adjusted to 25 AP / 25 Sabot:
A) Unlike earlier PzB rifles it came out in 1941 when there was a more plentiful supply and is also available longest until end 1943;
B) It is an SS designed/issued wpn that naturally would have more priority for allotment of Sabot ammo;
C) Unlike larger calibre squeeze-bore weapons whose Sabot ammo was also produced using Tungsten, the 7.9mm calibre never experienced a Sabot shortage as ample was produced;
D) As an SS wpn its mode of employment would naturally have been shorter range engagements by well trained/motivated troops;
E) As with the 7.9mm EW 141 that was issued in 1942 (units 572, 573 & 858 - with 30 AP / 90 Sabot), the slightly more accurate PzB M.SS.41 (vs PzB 39) was designed for more shorter-range engagements using Sabot.
I believe my reasoning is sound on this issue.
Thoughts?

(B) With the revision of all other small caliber ATR (WH = 1) per the Mobhack formula, the 7.9mm EW 141 Accuracy should also be revised as per barrel length = 1085mm (per Panzer Tracts No.1-2, page 1-148).
Therefore, as with PzB 39, 1085 / 7.92 =136.99 /4 = 34.248 round down to 34.
Thus 7.9mm EW 141 Accuracy = 34.

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Default Re: ATR Wpn OOB Corrections

As I can't seem to get Edit button to work,
(A) & (B) are in regards to OOB 16.

Also, while cost of Unit 603 does Not change.
All 3 PzKw 1C go up in cost by 1 per cost calculator.

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