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Old November 2nd, 2018, 05:14 AM

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When I shell a bunker the bunker takes on some suppression if I shell it a lot that can be a lot of suppression however, if the bunker has troops loaded into it those troops take on much less suppression than the Bunker itself. For example the bunker might have suppression of 55 but the carried troops will only have a suppression of maybe 2. You can view this on the Unit menu. But when I unload the troops they then get the bunkers suppression added on to them. Considering that most bunkers are specifically designed to protect troops from shelling and do an excellent job of it shouldnt the carried troops unload with the suppression they got while in the bunker only, and not get the bunkers suppression added on when they dismount or exit?

After all in WWI after hours of heavy shelling MG crews were able to move out of their shelters in good order, set up there guns and mow down hundreds of troops as soon as the shelling stopped. This happened on a regular basis.

I dont know if this is actually the case but shouldnt the bunker itself get much less suppression in the first place anyway? that is compared to infantry in the open for example. They are after all designed to resist being shelled.
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Old November 2nd, 2018, 11:03 AM

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Default Re: Fortifications

As I understand it, the bunker is to prevent causalities. The troops can shake off the suppression within two turns or so.
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Old November 2nd, 2018, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: Fortifications

Originally Posted by Kiwikkiwik View Post
They are after all designed to resist being shelled.

I believe they were designed to resist direct fire (mostly small arms) - as Kulik said "to prevent casualties - and SOP when facing a pesky bunker was to shell it...

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Old November 3rd, 2018, 01:14 AM

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Default Re: Fortifications

When a squad exits a fortification they have very little situational awareness. They usually are deploying single file out a door, they have to take up a tactical formation or assume positions in a defensive trench or position, crew served weapons have to be put into action, enemy has to located. In reality dismounting from an APC should start a unit with some suppression. You are rolling and rocking across the terrain, there is a sudden stop, the turret gun starts firing, the TC is yelling "enemy, right flank, 200 meters. deploy on line to the left" the ramp comes down and you exit by automatic to take up a formation without really knowing what is around you.
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