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World Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide

A quick and dirty short guide to playing the Armenia v. Azerbaijan showdown in SPCAMO

Use these pregenerated Map Regions:

41 - Caucasus
44 - Caucasus
128 - Mountain
133 - Mountain City
138 - Mountain River

Because the place is pretty much 99.99% mountain, as shown by this picture of a pre-war Armenian training exercise:



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Sources
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...n_Armed_Forces
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92...BD%D0%B8%D0%B8
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/102-%D...B0%D0%B7%D0%B0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern...ni_Land_Forces
https://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D5%80...AA%D5%A5%D6%80

IISS The Military Balance 2020

Reportage by RC4 later in this thread, citing SIPRI Arms Transfer Sheets, and misc OBAT information

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After the collapse of the USSR, the Tashkent Agreement saw the division of 15,800 T-72 tanks between the eight post-Soviet states; with Armenia and Azerbaijan each receiving 220 tanks.

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Armenia

Armenia Basic OBAT==========================

SOF Regiment (or Brigade)
Motorized Rifle Training Brigade

I Corps
--Recon Battalion
--Tank Battalion
--2 x Motorized Rifle Regiments
--Maintenance Battalion

II Corps
--Recon Battalion
--Tank Battalion
--2 x Motorized Rifle Regiments
--Light Infantry Regiment
--Artillery Battalion

III Corps
--Recon Battalion
--Tank Battalion
--4 x Motorized Rifle Regiments
--Light Infantry Regiment
--Artillery Battalion
--MRL Battalion
--Signals Battalion
--Maintenance Battalion

IV Corps
--4 x Motorized Rifle Regiments
--SP Artillery Battalion
--Signals Battalion

V Corps
--Motorized Rifle Regiment
--7th Fortified Area (GYUMRI)
--9th Fortified Area (ETCHMIADZIN)


Basically pick common 1989-1995 Russian stuff for small arms (AK-74, RPK-74, PK, NSV, Kord)

MANPADS
--Strela-3 (SA-14)
--Igla-1 (SA-16)
--Igla (SA-18) -- Received 40 firing units with 200 missiles in 1995-96.
--Igla-S (SA-24) -- Received 200 missiles in 2013 and 200 more in 2016,
--9K333 Verba (SA-25) -- Received 200 missiles in 2016-17.

ATGM and Weapons:
RPG-7
RPG-26
RPO-A Shmel
SPG-9 Recoilless Gun
9M14 Malyutka ATGM
9K111 Fagot (AT-4) -- Received 945 missiles in 1993-1996.
9M111M Faktoriya
9M113 Konkurs
9M113M Konkurs-M
9M113M-2 Kornet-EM (50 launchers with 200 missiles purchased in 2013)
9K114 Shturm
9K115 Metis
MILAN (with locally made night sight)
T-12 Rapira 100mm AT Guns
9P149 Shturm-S Tank Destroyer (27 units with 9M120 Ataka)
9P148 Tank Destroyer with 9M113M Konkurs-M

Armenian Tanks==========================

11 to 30 x T-90S (nobody is sure of the exact figure)

101 x T-72s which are the following models:

T-72A
T-72AV
T-72B/B1/obr.1989
T-72B3

A contract was signed in 2017 to modernize all of them to T-72B3 level; but I don't know the progress of that modernization program.

3 x T-54
5 x T-55

(Down from 80~ T-54/55 in service with Armenia in 2001-2006 time frame)

Armenian APC/Light Vehicles==========================

50 x BMP-2 (lightly modernized, from Russia in 1995-96)
90 x BMP-1
108 x BTR-60 (withdrawn but possibly in reserve?)
18 x BTR-70
160 x BTR-80
145 x MT-LB
120 x BRDM-2
10 x Tigr 4x4 MRAP (2011-Present)

Armenian Gun Artillery==========================

10~ x 2S1 Gvozdika 122mm SPH
28~ x 2S3 Akatsiya 152mm SPH
69~ D-30 122mm Towed Howitzers
34~ D-20 152mm Towed Howitzers
26~ x 2A36 Giatsint-B 152mm Towed Guns

Armenian Rocket Artillery==========================

45+ BM-21 GRAD 122mm MRL
6 x BM-30 SMERCH 300mm MRL (2016-Present)
6 x TOS-1 Buratino
4 x WM-80 (Chinese Type 83 273mm MRL) (1999-Present)

Armenian Missile Artillery==========================

8 x 9K72 Elbrus (SS-1C SCUD-B) SRBM TELs with 24 missiles (1996 present)
7-8 x 9K79 Tochka (SS-21 SCARAB) SRBM
4 x 9K720 Iskander-E SRBM TELs with 25 missiles (2016-Present)

Armenian Air Defenses==========================

2 x S-300PS (SA-10B) SAM Sets with 144 x 5V55U missiles (2009-Present)
9 x 2K11 (SA-4) Krug SAM Sets with 349 x 3M8M1 missiles (2009-Present)
2 x Tor-M2KM (SA-15) SAM sets with 50 x 9M338 missiles (2019-Present)
4 x Osa-AK (SA-8B) SAM sets with 120 x 9M33 missiles (2019-Present)

Armenian Air Force==========================

4 x Su-30SM
14 x Su-25K
12 x Mi-8/17/171
7 x Mi-24P HIND
2 x Mi-24K HIND
2 x Mi-24R HIND
6 x L-39 Trainers
15 - 20 UAV

==========================Russian Wild Card==========================

102nd Military Base of the Group of Russian Forces in Transcaucasia

In 2013, the chief commander of 102nd military base Andrey Ruzinsky said in an interview that "If Azerbaijan decides to restore jurisdiction over Nagorno-Karabakh by force the [Russian] military base may join in the armed conflict in accordance with the Russian Federation’s obligations within the framework of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO)."

In November 1990, the 127th Motor-Rifle Division assigned to the base had:

60 x T-72
46 x BMP-2
71 x BMP-1
85 x BTR-70
6 x BTR-60
12 x 2S1 Gvozdika 122mm SPH
72 x D-30 122mm Howitzers
12 x BM-21 Grad

In 1994, the 127nd MRD was reorganized into the 102nd Military Base.

In 2010, the basing agreement was extended until 2044.

As of 2020; I have no idea what's there; but in 2005; it had:

74 tanks
165 armoured vehicles
84 artillery pieces
18 x MiG-29
S-300 SAM

and:

After the withdrawal of Russian troops from Georgia, a large amount of military equipment from former Russian military bases in Batumi and Akhalkalaki was transferred to the 102nd base

==========================Republic of Artsakh==========================

Which maintains the Nagorno-Karabakh Defence Army.

These guys have:

300 x T-72
30 x T-55
200 to 400 Amored vehicles (of which 250 are IFV?)
300 to 400 artillery pieces over 122mm
44 x MRLS (BM-21 GRAD?)
2 x Su-25
4 x Mi-24
5 x Mi-8
4 x UAVs

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Azerbaijan

Much more well equipped than Armenia due to oil money; but very little standardization in their forces as a result of this.

Azerbaijan Basic OBAT==========================

(NOTE, incomplete; I got some of this from skimming Azerbaijani websites.)

I Corps (Gorus)
--522nd Brigade
--539th Brigade

II Corps
--555th Motorized Rifle Regiment
--706th Motorized Rifle Brigade

III Corps (Vanadzor)
--3rd (Vanadzor) Motor Rifle Regiment
--246th (Ijevan) Motor Rifle Regiment
--543rd (Noyemberyan) Motor Rifle Regiment
--549th (Chambarak) Motor Rifle Regiment

IV Corps (Yeghaknadzor)
--527th Motor Rifle Regiment

V Corps (Nubarashen)
--9th Motor Rifle Regiment
--4th Motor Rifle Regiment
--545th Motor Rifle Regiment

Azerbaijani Infantry Weapons==========================

Amusingly enough, they use a variant of the AR-15/M-16 chambered in 7.62x39 as their primary infantry weapon, with Special Forces using the M4 Carbine. They still have a lot of AK-74 clone rifles in service.

Azerbaijani ATGM / AT weapons==========================

AT-1K Raybolt from South Korea (70 launchers)
B-300 ATGM from Israel
Spike-LR ATGM (100~ missiles delivered by Israel, 2009-2010).
MILAN
9K111 Fagot
9M113 Konkurs
9M133 Kornet (AT-14) (100~ missiles delivered by Russia, 2009-2010).
24 x 9P157-2 (BMP-3 based) Khrizantema-S ATGM Vehicles with 800 x 9M123 (AT-15) ATGM (Delivered by Russia from 2017-18).
RPG-7

Azerbaijani MANPADS==========================

17 x FIM-92 Stinger from USA
200 x Igla-S (SA-24) Launchers with 1,000 missiles (Russia from 2012-13).
18 x Strela-3 (SA-14) Launchers (Ukraine in 2008).

Azerbaijani Tanks==========================

100 x T-90S (Delivered by Russia from 2013-2015)

Their T-72 fleet is about 500-600, broken down as:

T-72A
T-72M1 (259 were received from 2002-2013 from Slovakia, Ukraine, Belarus and Russia)
T-72 SIM1 "Aslan" -- Both T-72A and T-72M1 were deeply modernized by Israel's Elbit/Rafael (https://elbitsystems.com/media/T-72.pdf) to include:

Digital Ballistic Computer
Commander's Independent Thermal Viewer to complement a modern thermal sight for gunner.
Driver's Thermal Night Vision.
7.5 kW APU
New radios to replace obsolete Soviet-manufactured radios
Kontakt-1 quality ERA
GPS navigation

95 x T-55 (Survivors of 150~ vehicles delivered by Ukraine in 1993-1994?)

Azerbaijani APC/Light Vehicles==========================

118 x BMP-3M with Thermal Sights and 1,000 9M117 (AT-10) Bastion ATGMs (Delivered 2013-15).
33 x BMP-2M Modernized by Elbit.
43 x BMP-1
20 x BMD-1
18 x BTR-80 (Delivered by Ukraine, 2007)
70 x BTR-80A (Delivered by Russia, 2007-10).
76 x BTR-82A (Delivered by Russia, 2017-18).

132 x BTR-70 "Shimsek" modernized variant with modern FCS and thermal sights in a new turret developed with South Africa (2A14 23mm Autocannon and 7.62mm PKT Coaxial). (Pic attached).
(The "Shimsek" BTR-70s appear to be the survivors of 150 x BTR-70 delivered by the Ukraine from 2007-2010.)

10 x BTR-60
60~ x BRDM-2
20 ~ x ZKDM (modernized BRDM-2) with a new blast resistant hull shape, and new remote turret with twin barrel 23mm GSh-23 cannon, 7.62mm PKT Coax, 30mm AGS-17 launcher, four 57mm/80mm rocket launchers.
336 x MT-LB
85 x Marauder 4x4 MRAP (25 South Africa 2009-11+30 2012+30 2013-15 w/assembly in Azerbaijan)
60 x Matador 4x4 MRAP (25 South Africa 2010-11+35 2012-15 w/assembly in Azerbaijan)
100 x SandCat 4x4 APV (Israel 2016-18)
10 x SandCat Spike-LR 4x4 Tank Destroyer with 250 Spike-LR ATGM (Delivered by Israel in 2016).
10 x Sandcat SPEAR w/CARDOM 120mm 4x4 SPM (Israel 2018)
10 x Sufa 4x4 APV (Israel 2009-10)
35 x Cobra 4x4 APV (Turkey 2010-11)
37 x Shorland 4x4 APV (Turkey 2010-2011)

Azerbaijani Gun Artillery==========================

46~ x 2S1 Gvozdika 122mm SPH
6~ x 2S3 Akatsiya 152mm SPH
12 x 2S7 Pion 203mm SPA
18 x 2S19 Msta SPH
100 x DANA 152mm Wheeled Guns from Czechs
5 x ATMOS 2000 155mm SPA (Delivered by Israel, 2010)
18 x 2S31 Vena 120mm SP Mortar (BMP-3 based) (Delivered by Russia, 2012-14).
50 x 2S9 Nona 120mm SP Gun-Mortar
129 x 2A18 (D-30) 122mm Towed Howitzers
24 x D-20 152mm Towed Howitzers
18 x 2A36 152mm Towed Guns
36 x M-46 130mm Towed Guns

Azerbaijani Rocket Artillery==========================

43 x BM-21
30 x BM-30 Smerch
17 x TOS-1
45 x MLRS 107
21 x T-122 Sakarya
30 x Lynx (Israeli)

Azerbaijani Missile Artillery==========================

4 x LORA MRL with 50 LORA Missiles (Delivered 2018, 400 km range)
TRG-300 Kaplan (20 launchers from Turkey)
Tochka (4 launchers, 120 km range)
10 x B200BM Polonez MRL (Belarus, 2018-19, 300 km range)

Azerbaijani Air Force==========================

5 x MiG-21
12 x MiG-29
12 x Su-25
65 x Mi-17
17 x Mi-36 HIND
4 x Ka-32
12 x Aero L-39 trainers
35+ UAVs of miscellaneous types
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Eh Eh !!
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Last release, keep the sound low
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mJf...ature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2jd...ature=emb_logo
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1312098466676441090
https://twitter.com/i/status/1310225066907652096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U4i...ature=emb_logo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K8a...ature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quu-...ature=emb_logo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA3_aTkr-H4

A breakdown of the origins of the conflict and also shows a breakdown of troops and equipment
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I had been thinking that perhaps the game showed too many tanks as flaming wreaks but after viewing the one link provided above

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2jd...ature=emb_logo

I'm thinking maybe not
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The big takeaway from this war is that loitering munitions such as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Harpy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Harop

have "come of age".

Basically, all of the loitering munitions have a 20-30 kg HE-FRAG warhead and can either operate in:

"Fire at predicted enemy concentration, autonomously search for targets, if no target found either self destruct or return to base"

"Man in loop control" with someone watching the video and confirming what to strike or not.

And because they're smaller and move slower than "traditional" air defense targets, they're overlooked by conventional SHORAD/Air Defenses.

Then again, like in Operation Desert Storm, we're only seeing the "good" videos of successful loitering munition attacks; the Azerbaijani MoD isn't going to post video of them being shot down or missing their targets.
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This is from an Armenian military exercise. Looks very flat, with almost no cover.



EDIT:

Camouflage for both sides:
MiG-29 (Azerbaijani) (Multi-Tone Blue)
Su-30SM (Armenian) (Multi-Tone Blue)
Su-25 (Armenian/Azerbaijani) (Green/Tan camo)
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