Finland OOB 10.1

dmnt · #1 May 24th, 2016, 03:39 PM

First, thank you for your extensive work on stretching the game end date to 2025 and all the work you have put in those OOBs.

This time I'm concentrating on artillery. In FDF, there are numerous models to track but those have been cut back at least to some extent, especially the old Soviet Union built stuff.

As equipment, FDF lists following field guns, SPAs and MRLs: (http://maavoimat.fi/kenttatykisto)
155 K 89 FG
130 K 54 FG
122 H 63 FH
122 PSH 74 SPA
298 RSRAKH 06 MRL
122 RAKH 89 MRL

152mm Field Guns and Howitzers

In 8/2012 a blogging FDF officer wrote (in comments as a reply to a question) that:

Quote:

Q: "ovatko venäläiset tykistökaliiberit 122mm, 130mm ja 152mm poistumassa puolustusvoimien vahvuudesta? Ja minkälainen on vedettävän tykistön tulevaisuus puolustusvoimissa?"

A: "Jos aloitetaan isoimmasta, niin 152 H 88 on jo poistunutta kalustoa. 152 K 89:n ja 152 TELAK 91:n aika on myös loppumassa joten iso venäläinen kaliiberi poistuu käytöstä. 130 K 54 sinnittelee vielä jonkin aikaa. 122 H 63 pysyy palveluskäytössä hamaan tulevaisuuteen. 122 PSH 74:lle oltiin ainakin yhdessä välissä tekemässä modernisaatiota, en ole nyt kartalla onko se projekti edennyt vai onko vedetty punaiset ruksit päälle. 155 K 83 ja 155 K 98 jatkavat vielä pitkään."

Quote:

Q: "are russian calibers 122mm, 130mm and 152mm to be removed from service? And what is the future of field guns?"

A: "Starting from the biggest, 152 H 88 is already done. 152 K 89 and 152 TELAK 91 (2S5 Giatsint-S) are running out of time so big Russian calibre is to be removed. 130 K 54 hangs on for a while. 122 H 63 is in service as far as I can see. 122 PSH 74 (2S1 Gvozdika) was up for a modernization at some point, I'm not aware if the project got further or has been crossed over. 155 K 83 and 155 K 98 will be here for a long time."

From another reply,

A: "122 RAKH 89 jatkaa palveluksessa, arvioisin että vielä ainakin 15 vuoden ajan."

A: "122 RAKH 89 will continue in service, I'd say at least for 15 years [2027]."

Then from the artillerist magazine I found the exact dates for 152 TELAK 91:
http://tykkimiehet-fi-bin.directo.fi...2015_netti.pdf

First test rounds: summer 1994
Second round: summer 1995
Conscript training starts: January 1996
Taken to museum: June 16th 2015 (2 pieces, rest scrapped)

I haven't found confirmation, but it is my understanding that 152 K 89 (2A36), the sister of 2S5 Giatsint was scrapped at the same time. Others were scrapped at this feast: http://web.archive.org/web/201104110.../1135265132950

So 152mm guns end dates as I know:

152 H 37 (ML20): 12/2000
152 H 88-37: 12/2007 (estimated)
152 H 88-40: 12/2007 (estimated)
152 H 55 (D20): 12/2011
152 K 89 (2A36): 6/2015

MODIFY
Unit 551 - 122 RAKH 89
End date: 12/2025

Unit 167 - 152mm Field Gun, H37 (ML20)
Incorrect start date, found credible reference for end date
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/ARTILLERY6.htm
Start Date: 1/1946 (same as 188 - 152mm Platoon, same gun and weapon#1)
End Date: 12/2000

Unit 170 - 152mm Field Gun, H55 (D20)
End Date: 12/2011

Unit 193 - 152mm Platoon, K89
End Date: 6/2015

Unit 328 - 152 TELAK 91 (2S5)
Start Date: 1/1996
End Date: 6/2015