.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

BCT Commander- Save $8.00
winSPWW2- Save $5.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > The Camo Workshop > WinSPMBT
Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old January 17th, 2018, 12:46 PM

Nicktheblack Nicktheblack is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Nicktheblack is on a distinguished road
Default Persistant problem with airborne units

Hi,

Me and my friend are avid players of both SPMBT and SPWWII and since 5.0 patch there is a huge problem with damaging flying vehicles game perceives as "tough". Currently I have a situation where I have shot AH-64D with 90mm rocket pods in rear section over 8 times without damaging it at all. In return my modern Chinese helicopter got hit with Stinger several times for no damage, but was damaged (1) by rifles (?!?). In previous game I had several recorded hits with 40mm Bofors on Il-2s for no damage at all.

I believe everyone who this may concern is able to understand how huge game killer this is.

This shouldn't be too troublesome to fix, and would definitely improve game experience.

Thanks in advance...
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old January 17th, 2018, 01:26 PM
Mobhack's Avatar

Mobhack Mobhack is online now
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dundee
Posts: 5,929
Thanks: 440
Thanked 1,853 Times in 1,217 Posts
Mobhack is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Persistant problem with airborne units

Post the patch, aircraft armour works better at rejecting damage. Smaller WH size is less likely to cause same, if the target has armour. Same goes for rifles at helos that get too close to infantry.

So you were unlucky with some hits, and unlucky with the one that got shot by rifles.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old January 17th, 2018, 05:14 PM
Suhiir's Avatar

Suhiir Suhiir is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 2,829
Thanks: 542
Thanked 792 Times in 600 Posts
Suhiir is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Persistant problem with airborne units

Just like real life ... sometimes helos live up to their "fragile" reputation, and others they're flying tanks.

Speaking of which .. try damaging an Mi-24 Hind sometime.
__________________
Suhiir - Wargame Junkie

People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." - Albert Einstein
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old January 21st, 2018, 02:09 PM
EJ's Avatar

EJ EJ is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: U.S. (GA)
Posts: 224
Thanks: 22
Thanked 26 Times in 18 Posts
EJ is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Persistant problem with airborne units

Nicktheblack, I agree. Suhiir, you are right. Mi-24 Hind are damn near impossible to shoot down. I'm so unlucky fighting air units that's WHY most of the time I pbem W/O them!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old January 30th, 2018, 05:21 PM

RetLT RetLT is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,152
Thanks: 325
Thanked 1,053 Times in 619 Posts
RetLT is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Persistant problem with airborne units

The SU-25 Grach is indestructible. Anything smaller than an area SAM just scratches the paint.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old January 30th, 2018, 08:21 PM
Mobhack's Avatar

Mobhack Mobhack is online now
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dundee
Posts: 5,929
Thanks: 440
Thanked 1,853 Times in 1,217 Posts
Mobhack is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Persistant problem with airborne units

I will investigate this - though I damaged or shot down a couple with 40mm a week or 2 back.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Mobhack For This Useful Post:
  #7  
Old January 30th, 2018, 08:24 PM
DRG's Avatar

DRG DRG is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: GWN
Posts: 12,227
Thanks: 3,798
Thanked 5,390 Times in 2,687 Posts
DRG will become famous soon enough
Exclamation Re: Persistant problem with airborne units

The Grach has the same armour rating as the A-10 both are described as "flying tanks, capable of surviving a lot of damage and bringing their pilot back."

That said, we will investigate this issue. Aircraft, in general, were tweaked a bit last release due to complaints of fragility.. we may need to tweak the tweak
__________________


If you find you are constantly reacting to your enemy's tactics instead forcing the enemy to react to yours, you are losing the battle....

Last edited by DRG; January 30th, 2018 at 08:47 PM..
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to DRG For This Useful Post:
  #8  
Old January 30th, 2018, 10:59 PM
Suhiir's Avatar

Suhiir Suhiir is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 2,829
Thanks: 542
Thanked 792 Times in 600 Posts
Suhiir is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Persistant problem with airborne units

I've tended to notice from my own games that MPADs and MGs only tend to actually damage aircraft about 50% (perhaps less) of the time even when they do hit (and that by itself can be hard).
__________________
Suhiir - Wargame Junkie

People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." - Albert Einstein
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old January 31st, 2018, 05:43 AM
Aeraaa's Avatar

Aeraaa Aeraaa is offline
Second Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 592
Thanks: 161
Thanked 345 Times in 208 Posts
Aeraaa is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Persistant problem with airborne units

The funny thing is that I've found the ATGMs as the best anti-helo weapon in the game. Just wait until the damn thing hovers in the air and whack them. More than 50% accuracy, high chance of damage (and thus at least forcing a withdrawal), what more you need?

On the other hand, MANPADs are terrible. Not only they less damage than ATGMs, but they also have a low chance of hitting if the helo has any decent EW rating. The only thing they're good for is to make a helo maneuver and become unable to use its ATGMs for the turn.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old January 31st, 2018, 03:28 PM

RetLT RetLT is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,152
Thanks: 325
Thanked 1,053 Times in 619 Posts
RetLT is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Persistant problem with airborne units

Stingers and Iglas are much better than Strelas.

Strela can't hit anything but stingers and Iglas often hit and do 1-2 points of damage to helos, just enough to make them go away.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.