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Should AGL's me made to auto cannon class?

I imagine AGL's could shoot at low flying helicopters.

Could you imagine helicopters hit by 40mm bombs?
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Default Re: AGL's To Auto Cannon Class

How about RPG's too?

These were used anti-helicopter in Somalia.
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Should AGL's me made to auto cannon class?

I imagine AGL's could shoot at low flying helicopters.

Could you imagine helicopters hit by 40mm bombs?
Get me examples of them being used against Helos and then **maybe** we'll discuss it further
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Should AGL's me made to auto cannon class?

I imagine AGL's could shoot at low flying helicopters.
I'd think the projectile velocity of AGLs would make them hitting a helo more then a bit iffy.

I'd have to test, but like infantry small arms I think you can shoot RPGs at stationary helos now. The chance of hitting a moving one would be effectively nil however.
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Default Re: AGL's To Auto Cannon Class

AGL go off when they hit the ground - not a timed fuse, so useless vs helos

RPG against helos are fired to take the auto-destruct of that round into account.

Neither will be anti-helo weapons in the game, other than against a landed one (I thing those are targeted as vehicles, but I dont leave them there for long!)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhEXXgiIVuY

According to this, helos can be brought down by RPG.
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Default Re: AGL's To Auto Cannon Class

And during WW II a pilot once shot down a Zero with a .45 while parachuting from his own aircraft.

Yes ... stuff can happen ... very unusual stuff sometimes. But probable is not the same as possible.
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And during WW II a pilot once shot down a Zero with a .45 while parachuting from his own aircraft.

Yes ... stuff can happen ... very unusual stuff sometimes. But probable is not the same as possible.
The Russian AGS-30 has a muzzle velocity in the neighbourhood of 600 FPS which is 1/3 slower than that .45. The Mk 19 is only marginally faster Yes it's " possible " but very very unlikely under "normal" circumstances"
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Default Re: AGL's To Auto Cannon Class

Not looked at the video but both would be hopless against helos, yes one got shot down while hovering but the chances are so remote it should not be modeled it would just cause wasted shots.
The game model covers the variety of outcomes pretty well but not the extremes like a meteorite or bird strike
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An un-armored helicopter hit by 40mm bombs would be spectacular.
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