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Old July 12th, 2019, 08:47 PM
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In general I'd assume sales to other countries are a generation, or two, behind whatever the seller currently uses. With a few exceptions for "good buddy" nations.
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Old July 24th, 2019, 07:51 AM
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Poland has a new program for returning to active duty retried T-72 in years 2019-2025 old stock T-72 build in Poland in eighties will be modernised, to New standard T72M2 here is a description (google translator) from original manufacturer site Bumar-Łabędy with nice photos
https://translate.google.pl/translat...o-standardu-m2

This modernised old T-72 will be close to PT-91 Twardy standard

Contract signed
https://translate.google.pl/translat...899_1_0_0.html

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Old July 24th, 2019, 12:04 PM
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This first one (Defence24 is a dedicated Polish site that also provides a European/World perspective as well.) I'm sure I had posted on last year as an FYI issue. The second one has been based on postings for almost 3yrs now which to my latest understanding is to move forward.
https://www.defence24.com/legislatio...in-battle-tank
https://en.ukrmilitary.com/2018/04/z...oland-t72.html


The following further outlines the possible scope of the project it contains the "nitty-gritty" of the details:
https://www.defence24.com/pdf/?artic...in-battle-tank

And just because...
The next in paras 3 & 4 give us some current formation numbers, Which I believe are good within the game now based on a "quick look" only. But it's good to see there appears to be money to support these types of ongoing training given their budgetary conditions.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/july...assesment.html

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Well I needed something to do. We're all taking a break from the last two nights of "activity's" so...

I was going to wait on this until I got home and again had access to to my files and the game but, what the heck!?!

I think we'll just call it the T-64BM-2017 it is an improved model over the current T-64BM "BULAT" as currently in the game.

First what I'm comfortable at this time.
1. The T-64BM-2017 is more advanced then the T-64BV-1/T-64BV1M and T-64BM "BULAT" as listed below by "game usage" factors.
A. Improved FCS, it has been upgraded with a very sophisticated 3rd GEN system. What makes this system much improved primarily is the fact it's designed to be much less vulnerable to either man-made interference along the IR Spectrum or those caused on the battlefield such as explosions, muzzle flash etc. it blocks them. We don't factor those into the game, however, this goes straight to the "heart of the matter" to the level of again, the sophistication of this system. We have this and so do the top tanks in the world. Another "key phrase" is it's an all weather capable system.

B. Improved Protection, the tanks above use (And a couple of others.} use NOZH/NIZH armor protection system. The references are strongly leading me to believe this is a newer Gen version of the same. I feel very comfortable, pending other evidence to the contrary, it wasn't fitted with the DUPLET System which is currently carried onboard the OPLOT-M.

C. Communications, The radio should be on par with the OPLOT-M. I believe you can thank us for that. It also has a very modern NAVSAT System get allows for encrypted BSM comms.

D. Has a remote 12.7mm RWS.

Conclusions at this point...

2.
A. Improved FCS, I see a TI/GSR 45 for this MBT. I'm not convinced at this point it has the same FCS as the OPLOT-M. Again w/o the game available, I believe there is room for a minor "bump" in both LRF/STABILIZER numbers. A compromise between the T-64 BULAT and OPLOT-M.

B. Protection, I again see a compromise between the two tanks or I believe the T-84 OPLOT might work as it had an earlier version of DUPLET I believe on that tank.

C. Start Date 10/2018.

Don as you might remember we ran out of time for this MBT for the last patch mostly due to the fact I didn't have enough information at the time to my any assessments on the improvements to that MBT.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/augu...t-64_mbts.html
https://www.janes.com/article/86319/...upgraded-t-64s
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-def...t64-tanks.html
https://defence-blog.com/army/russia...er-t-72b3.html
https://issuu.com/ukrainian_defense_...cs/udr-02-2017

For the last, if the Ref. doesn't come up right, look for pages 14-15.


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As a side note very early this morning I took a look at the numbers and more resources concerning the T-64BV BULAT/T-64BV BULAT 2017 and come up what I believe would be good "numbers" for the latter. I took my references/notes and came up with the numbers based on the current T-64BV BULAT and OPLOT-M.

Also I discovered that for sure the T-64BV BULAT 2017 apparently has 360' APS onboard as well as it's predecessor (Though I'm still looking into that.).

The APS is based on the same system that, and I hope your sitting down for this next, that the Ukraine sold to Turkey! Like diarrhea", Turkey just won't go away. I can confirm that the "PULAT" APS is mounted on their M-60 TTS and LEOPARD A1 tanks. Not sure about the M-48/LEORARD A4 tanks. At this point there's just as much to support "both sides of the coin" on them. I believe the M-60T already had it (APS) when submitted.

Was going to add it at the end of Taiwan F-16V post I just submitted until I saw how long it got!?!

Keeping something short, that'll be the day!?!

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https://www.janes.com/article/88384/...in-battle-tank

Yes but the 60T in game has a passive VRRS system and PULAT is a CIWS type active system so that needs changing
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If some of you might remember I "celebrated" in a Post here, that Turkey unseated India as the #1 PITA. They won't be unseated anytime soon.

This is not an unheard of situation, however it's still Turkey we're talking about. Here's the "quick and dirty".

1. The modernization program consists of 2 separate programs running in parallel.

1.a. M60T has been upgraded to the M60T1. Status: Near Completion/or Completed.

1.b. M60A3 TTS has been upgraded to the M60TM. Status: About to begin/or Early stage production.

1.c. It's starting to look like most or all of the components used on the ALTAY FCS is used on these "modernized" tanks. Not unusual as the ABRAMS and BRADLEY FCS's have the same core components on theirs.

Still running this down Refs are scant. Ref. provided below best so far. PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY!! I missed this on the first read myself about the "parallel programs". That info appears at the very bottom of the Ref.
https://www.militaryimages.net/threa...es.6788/page-16

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