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Old January 29th, 2016, 06:57 PM

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Default Canadian OOB v.8.1 - few observations

Few observations:

7 Ford A/C - a photo is obviously 4x2 Rolls-Royce, a photo of 6x4 Ford is here http://silverhawkauthor.com/images/s...nis_Berkin.jpg (full article: http://silverhawkauthor.com/ironside...-book_268.html )
Maybe a better name is 1935 Armoured Car, because only two were built, one Ford and one similar GM (or Ford/GM AC?). From the same reason, they should not appear in units bigger, than two cars
Armament was also one #136 Vickers BMG.

They were used from 5/35 to 1941 (earlier there were no armoured cars, and the only armoured vehicles were tankettes). In fact, according to a quoted page, they got machineguns only in 1937, but I suppose they might have got them earlier in need.
Max speed was 30 mph.

48 Fox Mk I - armament was .50 Browning and .30 Browning. According to http://steel-chariots.22web.org/fox.htm they were built only from 1942.
I guess, that this unit started life as a renamed British Humber AC? Now we have early Humbers as 147 and 300, but I don't know, if the Canadians used them (apart from late Mk.IV) - this page http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/vehi...mouredcars.htm doesn't confirm it.

As far as it is known, Mk I seems the only variant, so it might as well be just Fox A/C.

90 Fox Mk II - I can't find any information about Fox Mk II - I guess, this unit was once renamed from Humber Mk IV?.. Anyway, we already have Humber IV as unit 301. Despite the page http://silverhawkauthor.com/ironside...-book_268.html says, that "The Fox was built by General Motors, Canada, based on the British Humber Armoured Car Mk IV but using Canadian components", but it doesn't seem reliable - and a photo described as "Fox Armoured Car Mk IV, Canadian War Museum, Ottawa, Ontario" is an ordinary Fox with an armoured cover for .50 MG, not 37 mm gun.


91 Bolingbroke IV - Bolingbroke was a maritime patrol aircraft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Bolingbroke . Maybe it should be just named Blenheim Mk IV?

104 Humber Gun Quad - there were no Humber Quads, original was Morris Quad, but I suppose more appropriate is CMP FAT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMP_FAT (apart from described Chevrolet CGT also Fords FGT were used, I don't know which was more numerous)

115 Lynx - photo is Dingo. 12526 seems to be Lynx (used by unit 149)

125 Otter II - I couldn't find no info on "II" variant - a basic variant is known as Otter Mk I (http://steel-chariots.22web.org/otter.htm), however it seems, that it was the only variant and it might be as well just Otter LRC.

134 M3 75mm GMC - photo is 105mm T19

135,142 M3 6pdr GMC - as above (if it is supposed to be T48, there is a Soviet photo Pm29389)

158 Carden-Loyd - Carden-Loyd Mk.VIa were bought already in 1930 - http://steel-chariots.22web.org/carden.htm
Initially they should be the only armoured vehicles available, so maybe it should be doubled as armoured car class, to avoid changing a pick list?

163 Douglas Boston - more adequate photo is 12550 in RAF markings

168,169,182 Commando Sec, Cdo Pioneer Sec - maybe these units should swap pictures? (Pioneer Cec has Bren on a photo, while it hasn't one). Same for 424,428 Cdo Demo Team, which has no Bren.

172 Cdo Demo Team - it has a photo of Piat, while it hasn't one (maybe 8651?)

187 Para Demo Team - as above

255 4.5in Howitzer - proper icon is 2115 (British OOB), with shorter barrel

276 Bren Carrier - it could be renamed T16 carrier - a heavily armed carrier on the photo is T16 http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-...en_carrier.htm

290,291 Humber Scout I,II - Mk. I was produced only from early 1943, and Mk II from 1944, according to J. Magnuski's book and Czech "Army Wheels in Detail Humber Mk.I,II Scout Car".
However, Mk II didn't differ in armour, only mechanical changes - both had 14 mm in front and sides, 12mm rear.

299 Humber LRC III - apparently lacks an icon (3254)

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Easy additions:

- Morris LRC - #438 from Polish OOB, used by the 1st Canadian Infantry Division in Sicily and Italy according to http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/vehi...mouredcars.htm - possibly as 32 class?
(it also could be copied to the British OOB, used from late 41 - possibly as 240 class)

- Humber LRC I (Ironside) - #360 from British OOB, but with proper icon 3255, as 32 class - "In February 1942 the 5th Canadian (Armoured) Division ... possessed 11 Ironsides" according to a quoted page (although the author confuses Humber LRC with Humber Scout car).
This icon should be applied also to the British one.
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