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Old February 2nd, 2017, 01:08 PM

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Default Ukraine OOB New and Old Toys

As you can see, there is a frozen conflict going hot now in East Ukraine, so my interest for Russia and Ukraine OOBs is going up. The next patch IMHO should include these toys. ( I love this game and its OOB research)

1. Seems that Ukraine has developed a new ATGM to replace the old soviet ones. It is roughly comparable to Metis. This is KORSAR ATGM

http://www.army-technology.com/proje...issile-system/

http://www.military-today.com/missiles/korsar.htm

http://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/vooruzh...mpleks--korsar

2.But there isn't only this.

There is SKIF ATGM, roughly equivalent to Kornet.

http://www.luch.kiev.ua/en/productio...missile-system

http://www.military-today.com/missiles/skif.htm

http://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/vooruzh...-kompleks-skif

3. Ukraine has fielded 203mm Malka/Pion Heavy Artillery, the same unit Russia has in OOB, and in game there is only an older 203mm cold war era gun.

They need unit 807, 813 and 914 from Russian OOB

http://www.military-today.com/artillery/2s7_pion.htm

http://warforukraine.com/weapons/art...1-2s7pion.html

http://armamentresearch.com/ukrainia...ry-to-service/

https://twitter.com/raging545/status/766687835827175424

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8_Y9qmHFWQ

http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/4-janua...-pion/comments

4. In Ukraine OOB there is an error: Ukraine has destroyed with American assistance all its Tu-22M Backfire ( unit 541) bombers since 2002-2004, according to strategic force reduction treaties

http://www.nti.org/media/pdfs/ukrain...f?_=1317244859

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ine/tu-22m.htm

https://www.kyivpost.com/article/con...r-tu-7277.html

http://www.milavia.net/aircraft/tu-22m/tu-22m.htm Bottom of the page


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I made further web search and seems that Skif fires the same missile of Barrier ATGM, which equips new APCs BTR-3E1 and BTR-4, and the upgraded BMP-1M because Konkurs is Russian-made!

http://en.reporter-ua.ru/ukrainian-a...standards.html

http://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/vooruzh...kompleks-barer

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4339.html


From Jane’s International Defence Review April 2005:

"Both the Bar'Er vehicle-mounted anti-tank missile system and the Skif man-portable system use the new R-2 semi-automatic laser-beam guided missile. It weighs 61 kg, including its 9 kg tracking sight and two missile canisters. Skif, with its single-round remotely controlled tripod launcher, has a system weight of 56 kg, including its 8 kg operator's control station.

The R-2 missile is 1.27 m long and has a diameter of 130 mm. It weighs 16 kg and is packed into a 160 mm-diameter RK-2 canister to create a complete round weighing 26 kg. The missile has cruciform wings and small cruciform tail surfaces. The wings have a curved profile that allows them to the stored folded against the missile body while the round is in its canister.

The tandem-charge warhead is credited with a minimum penetration of 800 mm of rolled homogenous armour (RHA) when the latter is protected by explosive-reactive armour (ERA). Effective range is 100-5,000 m and time of flight to maximum range is 23 seconds."



And from Jane’s Missiles & Rockets June 2007:

"Skif is intended for use against stationary and moving armoured targets, and fixed targets such as small bunkers and weapon stores, or even against helicopters.

The remotely controlled version consists of a tripod; an azimuth and elevation training mechanism; an electro-optical module consisting of a sight and automatic target tracker; a missile housed in a transporting launching container; and a remote-control unit.

The launcher weighs 27 kg, while the combined sight and automatic-tracking device add a further 15 kg, and the remote-control unit and a 50 m connecting cable weigh 12 kg. The remote-control unit allows the operator to be positioned well away from the launcher, which improves survivability. When Skif was first shown in its original form two years ago, the remote-control unit could be located only 5 m from the launcher.

The system uses Luch Design Bureau's R-2 anti-tank missile. Folding wings and control surfaces allow the missile to be mounted in an RK-2 transporting-launching container. RK-2 is 129 cm long and 140 mm in diameter.

Two versions of Skif are being promoted a simpler and cheaper variant without a laser rangefinder or thermal imager and a more expensive system fitted with both."


Here some GOLD INTEL about Ukrainian MIC and Army

http://bintel.com.ua/en/article/opk1/

http://bintel.com.ua/en/article/opk2/

http://bintel.com.ua/en/article/opk3/

http://bintel.com.ua/en/article/opk4/

http://bintel.com.ua/en/article/opk5/

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This the Ukraine replacement for Invar and Reflex:

KOMBAT ATGM

http://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/vooruzh...kombat-i-konus

http://www.luch.kiev.ua/en/productio...guided-missile

http://fofanov.armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/ARM/atgm/ammo.html
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