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Old February 17th, 2020, 01:34 AM
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Sending them via alternate method. See previous Post.

And can you delete this worthless post?


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Default Re: The FASTBOAT Patch page.

A couple do. most don't. Don't worry about it if I think I need better photos I know how to find them and as well the ones that do show are incorrect.. The second link from the end you have as a 1a is clearly marked II right on the tank's front left fender



And this link
https://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...n-2073023.html

Also claims the photo is a 1A but it is also clearly marked as a II...... and it's probably the same tank as the other photo

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Seeing as how convoluted this has become I am going to go out on a limb and say the 1A and the II are the same tank with "1A" being the working prototype name and in reality, what we should have is one unit named Arjun Mk IA/II
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I would recommend keeping them separate. A couple of the sources are indicating that the ARJUN Mk-1 will be upgraded to the ARJUN Mk-1A standard during depot over haul as funds become available.

And there are a couple of issues with the ARJUN Mk-2 besides the outstanding "mystery" improvements NOT made on the ARJUN Mk-1A. I don't know how you shed just over 3 tons of weight on the chassis and maintain its overall strength to mount the same body onto it.

Unless they've developed a stronger steel composite we don't know about, it's very possible we could see a "smaller" MBT. As an example just because the Japanese TYPE 10 is a small tank doesn't mean I want to fight against it.

I can quite honestly see the ARJUN Mk-2 "dovetail" right into the LONG hoped for FMBT Program India has wanted, where the ARJUN Mk-2 will become the prototype MBT for that project.

ARJUN was always meant to get them to FMBT. The local political situation and finances have driven them to the ARJUN Mk-1A whether it takes them to the ARJUN Mk-2 is still up in the air, given India's history dealing with these tanks.

Remember it took them 30yrs. just to get them to the ARJUN (Prototype) and about another 3-5 years before we had the ARJUN Mk-1.

It would be more expediate in the mid term and financially sound, to just upgrade the ARJUN Mk-1 to the Mk-1A standard.

We don't need to follow India as much as we need to follow Pakistan. Why?

Remember I posted this within the last couple of years, the Ukraine and Pakistan have already signed the papers to in a sense
co-develop the OPLOT-P. That will drive India's ARJUN/FMBT issue more then the rest of it in my opinion.

Can you just edit the pictures since they'll be B&W anyway? Don't know never tried any of that myself.

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Dont worry, I follow Pakistan. I have a complete changed Orbat for them. I am testing it to get it right.

The Pak government is investing on:
-more Al-Zarrar conversions from T59MII
-Upgrade all their T85IIAP
-Upgrade T80UD/T84 hybrid with some Oplot equipment
-new build Al-Khalid I (improved) (new mechanized Division forming)
-new T125-IIM ammo

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