MP: The Ascension Wars: MA,12 players, no mods, newb friendly. [Year 4, 8/12 remaining]

[legowarrior]

I'm brand new multiplayer, and I've only really played CBM recently. I liked to try either the Agartha or Shinuyama, depending on which be easier to handle for a newb.

I think I have a slight preference for the Shinuyama though.

[Executor]

Battle for Wesnoth avatar! I'll think I'll have to get reacquainted with that game soon. Don't know why but that reminded me of plants vs zombies too...

I'm probably a bit more experienced than "experienced". Just though I'd get it out there before anyone implies I'm trying to mislead or join a newb game.

[Ragnarok-X]

Can i still join ? I have plenty of SP experience butno multi. Can we use latest cbm ?

EDIT: Pythium, please.

[3V4JKZ2]

Lego, Wendigo, I got you guys.

I just remembered one of those things that I should have thought to mention:
Edit: I forgot to mention; please give 2-3 days notice if you need to go absent/quit for attempts to find replacements.

Also, Wendigo, I gave you R'lyeh; It looks like we'll be finishing with 10-12 players. Can I get map suggestions for my creation this evening?

Also, could I ask the vets (Wendigo, Korwin, Ossa, Executor) to comment on R'lyeh as the only sea nation? I think that might have implications, but I'm not sure what they are.

In timeline; it looks like game up tonight at 11:00 PM PST, pretender submission, with first turn on Thursday or Friday...unless I screw something up in game creation.

10-12 people means 100-120 territories small, 150-180 medium. I'm not really friendly to considering "large".

That means 100-180. I am going over Llama's list, and removing the ones with insufficient land starts or too many sea starts (I have figured that giving R'yleh 30 provinces of sea is iffy ) It's possible I removed something good from the list due to short-sightedness. Apologies if I did.

So, organized by size:

Section 1: 100-121
Three Lake: 92 land, 12 sea (104, small)
Aran: 96 land, 11 sea (107, small)
Random map: Dark Paradise: 104 land, 16 sea (120, small)
Ilzgot: 104 land, 16 sea (120, small)
Random Map: Hellscape: 105 land, 15 sea (120, small)
Mines and Farms: 105 land + 16 sea. (121, small)

Section 2: 121-150
The Desert Eye: 108 land, 17 sea (125, small-medium)
Random Wraparound: Tiny_000, the middle one (the other two would be hostile to a water nation); 110 land + 15 sea. (125, small-medium)
Shadowshore: 120 land + 13 sea (133, small-medium)
Parganos (or fixed?): 116 land + 19 sea. (135, small-medium)
Random Map: Hieronica: 131 land + 19 sea (150, medium)

Section 3: 150+
Map for Old Kings: 135 land + 18 sea (153, medium)
Primea: 147 land, 9 sea (156, medium)
The Land of Loemendor: 142 land, 15 sea (157, medium) (The unmodified version)
Random map: Etruscae: 158 land, 22 sea (180, medium)
Urraparrand: 145 land, 35 sea, broken up. (180, medium)
ShariversomfixLlama: 168 land, 12 sea (180, medium)

So, looking for strong opinions/preferences from people (including the newer people), though I'm generally against going really large (more than 15-16 provinces per person)

[3V4JKZ2]

Ragnarok-X, you're welcome to join, but there will be no CBM.

[Ragnarok-X]

Since most of us are noobs to MP, i would vote for less provs per player.
im in.

[Korwin]

Originally Posted by 3V4JKZ2

Also, could I ask the vets (Wendigo, Korwin, Ossa, Executor) to comment on R'lyeh as the only sea nation? I think that might have implications, but I'm not sure what they are.

I love R'ley (my only real win, was with R'ley, I sort of won another one with Vanheim (last man standing), but only because the strongest nations went AI).
It's a very strong nation (IMHO).
A second water nation would be really good to balance R'ley.


Maybe someone (not me) would be willing to play Oceania (It's a really weak nation, well its good at clamming, but thats all...) or Atlantis?

If we went with only one water nation, I would vote for very few water provinces, so R'ley would need to get and keep land...

[3V4JKZ2]

Whatever, if Wendigo hasn't played in 5 years, giving him R`ley alone should be fine if we go for fewer water provinces.

[legowarrior]

Can I switch to the Agartha. I just realized how annoyingly slow it is to start with the Shinoyama. I might be able to do it with against the computer, but I don't think I can against human.
Sorry about the last minute switch.

[3V4JKZ2]

No trouble whatsoever.