The Pantokrator!

[HoneyBadger]

I was wondering-for the purposes of creating a mod-what peoples' opinions would be as to the form the Pantokrator would take, and the race of people it would lead, if the (obviously limited) former Pantokrator were to show up in a game as a neutral power. The idea for this is that the Pantokrator has been greatly weakened by the escape of various gods he once captured and used for his power, but he's not gone/dead, and still needs to be "physically" defeated by the player-nations before they can fight it out amongst themselves.

[Foodstamp]

I imagine the Pantokrator as a juggernaut of a titan that is a recurring theme in European mythologies. Examples would be Chronus from Greek mythology and Ymir from Norse mythologies. In both instances, a god was overthrown and new gods arose to struggle to take his place. It is a common theme in mythology and I think it would fit Dominions nicely.

[VedalkenBear]

Er...

Do you even know what the word means? To give the reference:

http://www.reference.com/search?r=13&q=Pantocrator

[Sombre]

You can also play as the pantokrator in the Mytheology pretenders mod. Just mentioning that in case you hadn't noticed.

[Foodstamp]

VedalkenBear said:
Er...

Do you even know what the word means? To give the reference:

http://www.reference.com/search?r=13&q=Pantocrator

Yeah, I have seen the internet definitions saying it means Jesus Christ.

I think Dominions uses the word in a different context. In one of my Religions classes, Pantokrator had a different meaning. It meant all powerful, usually used in the context of an earlier supreme diety.

And the link you posted supports this somewhat. One of the definitions listed actually says :

The most common translation is "Almighty" or "All-powerful." In this understanding, Pantokrator is a compound word formed from the Greek words for "all" and the noun "strength" (κρατο&#962. This is often understood in terms of potential power; i.e., able to do anything, or omnipotentent.

"Another translation is "Ruler of All" or "Sustainer of the World." In this understanding, Pantokrator is a compound word formed from the Greek for "all" and the verb meaning "To accomplish something" or "to sustain something" (κρατε&#969. This translation speaks more to God's actual power; i.e., God does everything (as opposed to God can do everything)."

Which I think would have fit Chronus and Ymir (Especially) nicely before the other gods came along.

The internet is not the end all - be all of definitions and meanings of words. Take the word "myth" for instance. One of our assignments was to define "myth" in the context of religion. The correct answer was "A story (True or False) that reveals a profound truth." or some junk. None of us found that definition on the internet, so no soup for us.

[VedalkenBear]

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You're not understanding what I'm saying, do you? *sigh* You're taking it out of context. Yes, it means 'almighty', but did you read the etymology on the page, or did you just pick and choose what would support your argument?

And I used the site because it was handy. I have an Orthodox Bishop living with me if you want more detailed information. Somehow, I don't think you do.

[Gandalf Parker]

I suspect, as in most things in Dominion, the definition would be the one from times previous to present day religions. Remember that Kristoffers day job is teaching ancient religion