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Old June 1st, 2006, 08:37 AM

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Default Re: spob37 Czechoslovakia

OK, but it was too much for my English...
Its about czech terms for dragoon units and their org. structure in pre WW2 CZ army.
Maybe useful for improving CZ OOB made by PN79.
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Old June 1st, 2006, 09:02 AM

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Turret of PA-II is not rotary and only 2 MG can fire by one direction. So to simulate it we can use armoured car with rotating turret with 2 MG. I think.

Oops... Wasn't aware the turret was fixed
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Old June 1st, 2006, 09:17 AM

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Skvele shrnuti!
Nice overwiew!

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from "Miloslav John - Zari 1938":
zakladni jednotku tvorilo druzstvo (pusky+1 LK vz.26)
3 druzstva = ceta (35 jezdcu)
4 cety = eskadrona
3 eskadrony = korouhev
2 korouhve = dragounsky pluk

To convert this to English cavalry terms, it'd be something like this:

3 squads = platoon
4 platoons = troop
3 troops = squadron
2 squadrons = dragoon regiment

(hope I got it correctly)

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PLUK = 1.korouhev mela 3 eskadrony jezdecke, 2.korouhev mela 2 esk. jezdecke a 1 kulometnou s TK vz. 24, pozdeji vz.37
pluk mel jeste nahradni korouhev, asi s 2 eskadronami (nahradni a remontni)

Regiment = 1st squadron got three mounted troops, 2nd squadron got two mounted troops and one MG troop (vz.24 HMG, later vz.37)
Regiment got also a reserve squadron with most likely two troops (reserve and remount)

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nektere pluky mely jeste cyklistickou eskadronu = 1 ceta strelecka a 1 ceta kulometna
od 30. let jeste cetu KPUV

Some regiments got moreover bicycle troop (one Rifle platoon and one MG platoon)
since 1930's moreover AT-Gun platoon.

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jezdectvo bylo nutno rozclenovat do malych jednotek o kone byly pouzivany jen k rychelsim presunum. po presunu k bojove care jezdci sesedli a bojovali jako pechota. z techto duvodu doslo k prejmenovani jezdeckych pluku na dragounske. pruzkumna cinnost, ktera byla vzdy domenou jezdectva, musela byt take kombinovana s pesim pruzkumem.
Cavalry was to be scattered into smaller units and horses were used just for fater transport. After reaching combat area cavalrymen dismounted and fought as infantry. Because of this cavalry regiments were renamed to dragoons.
Recon, always cavalry's domain, had to be combined with foot recon as well.

(Hope I've managed to translate it without distorting the meaning and without torturing the English too much )
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Default Re: spob37 Czechoslovakia

No worries - not too bothered by 1 or 2 posts not in English, but it is the board language (stated in the usage guides somewhere).

Just trying to head off any potential floods of non-English posts in the future !

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Old June 1st, 2006, 01:59 PM

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Default Re: spob37 Czechoslovakia

I see, but I thought the contents of this post might well be useful (well, it was for me definitely!) - just not sure whether I put the troop in the correct place - would it be in cav terms platoon or company?
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Old June 1st, 2006, 03:13 PM

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Default Re: spob37 Czechoslovakia

Thanks Nemo_cz for org. structure and to Marek_Tucan for english terms.
And I appreciate any comments to my reworked spob.
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Old June 1st, 2006, 03:49 PM

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Default Re: spob37 Czechoslovakia

Unforttunately I still have to have a thorough look at it but most likely tomorrow At a quick glance, good work!
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Default Re: spob37 Czechoslovakia

I have tried to translate it in this way:
eskadrona = squadron (same level as company)
korouhev = guidon (same level as battalion)

Maybe there is any dragoon to correct it?
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Old June 2nd, 2006, 03:15 AM

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Default Re: spob37 Czechoslovakia

Nemo, this seems to be better than my translation, I admit I have been inspired by today's US armor cav terminology (where it is regt-squadron-troop-platoon).
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Default Re: spob37 Czechoslovakia

Hallo all
I just uploaded new version of czechoslovak oob.
Description is added in the first post.
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