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Old January 23rd, 2012, 01:04 AM
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Don,
The following should help. First is the Royal Danish Army homepage equipment section with names in English, click on pictures for further info, some of the characteristics you can make out and translator will work faster here. Other refs from Danish site as well and is fully in line and supported by the RDA site. A new tracked vehicle is supposed to replace the M113 and PIRANIA II and IIIs with a decision to be made this year on the replacement. Based on history with CV 9035DK it could be the ARMADILO APC version. But that's for next year. Unless the economics have pushed this back as happened to the Dutch last Summer. And yes everyone I'm on a mission here and everywhere.
http://www.forsvaret.dk/HOK/Materiel...¸retøjer.aspx
http://armyvehicles.dk/
http://armyvehicles.dk/cv9035.htm
http://armyvehicles.dk/m113g3dk.htm
http://armyvehicles.dk/m113g3dk_tankp.htm
http://armyvehicles.dk/procure.htm


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Don.

Yes, at the moment we're using the M113 and CV9035DK as APC. See my first post regadig 2+1 and 1+2 for configuration of coys equipped with CV9035DK and M113.

Just realised I made a mistake.
Regarding the fifth chart - it should be three 81mm mortars.
Hence formation 006 did have three 81mm m0rtars. Just found the correct organization charts.

Regarding Fastboat Tough reply - we neved have had Piranha II. Only Piranha IIIH and IIIC. We started out with 22 pieces H models and later bourght 96 pieces of the improved C model.
And you're right regarding a repacement for the M113 - we're still waiting for the decision to be made.
By the way - thanks for the links - I haven't seen them before...

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Old January 23rd, 2012, 02:18 PM
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What you are going to get for formation 006 and any others like it will be another formation with mortars and the original without mortars.

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There's a bit of a problem

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Regarding formation 015.
I can’t find any data showing we actually had unit 335 - I think you can delete it.
Unit 336 and 337 is correct. Start date 1/56 is correct.
The problem is you have already told me ........

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Unit 337 – never existed.

and if "Start date 1/56 is correct" ......

what of Unit 334 that starts 1/52 and ends 12/57 ?

If I removed unit 335 as you suggest I get an 11 year gap with no unit in that formation. Do I assume that unit 334 stays in service until unit 336 starts or does unit 336 start earlier than 1967 ?

??

OR...... does unit 337 actually exist ?


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Old January 23rd, 2012, 05:01 PM
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and as well

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Regarding formation 100.
The start date is correct. The end date should be 12/2010.
One HQ unit with one Piranha.
Three Mech Inf Pl (each three squads and three Piranhas),
One Medium Mortar Section (two 81mm Self Propelled Mortar M113 (M125A1 or M106)).
One Combat Service support section with two ammo trucks.
So if formation 100 has an end date of 12/2010 then formation 101 should have an end date of 12/2010 as well.......yes ??


And... where in the game do you find a formation with attached ammo ?? You don't which should be a clue that we don't create them like that. It's fine to make suggestions to improve an OOB but only within the parameters of the game. Please don't try to re-invent the wheel.




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Hi.

Regarding formation 006, Ok.

Regarding formation 015 and units 334 - 337.
Unit 334 never existed, and as far I can find data, the RCL jeep wasn't introduced until beginning of 1956. If you have other data, ok then.
It is unit 335 and 336 which are correct. Don't know why I mentioned 337 - late night I guess. God job you're awake. Unit 337, the MB jeeb has never been fitted with a RCL.
End date 12/82 for unit 336 is also correct the RCL jeep has been completly out of service ever since. Thus formation 015 should have an start date 1/56 and end date 12/82. I've double checked it, so it's not 1985 as earlier mentioned.

It's correct that formation 101 also should have an end date 12/2010.

Well, you're right. No units have internal CSS units. AI pick list slipped my mind here.
I'll just always buy them on the side, since I very often tend to run out of ammo.
It wasn't my intention.to suggest a reinvent of a wheel.

I've gotten a new respect for you editing OOB - It's a hell of a job keeping track of all the various data.

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Regarding formation 015 and units 334 - 337.
Unit 334 never existed, and as far I can find data, the RCL jeep wasn't introduced until beginning of 1956. If you have other data, ok then.
NO... but I am struggling with the info you are providing....

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It is unit 335 and 336 which are correct. Don't know why I mentioned 337 - late night I guess. Good job you're awake. Unit 337, the MB jeeb has never been fitted with a RCL.
End date 12/82 for unit 336 is also correct the RCL jeep has been completly out of service ever since. Thus formation 015 should have an start date 1/56 and end date 12/82. I've double checked it, so it's not 1985 as earlier mentioned.

...and yesterday you told me 335 should be removed.....

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Regarding formation 015.
I can’t find any data showing we actually had unit 335 - I think you can delete it.
Unit 336 and 337 is correct. Start date 1/56 is correct.

So far you have told me to delete 337 and 335 and now delete 334 and put 335 back in. End dates have changed twice. At least todays info makes sense and makes a coherent formation


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I've gotten a new respect for you editing OOB - It's a hell of a job keeping track of all the various data.

Hviid
It doesn't help when I get conflicting info like that but I think it's sorted out now ( I hope..)



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Hi Don.

I'm sorry for confusing you by providing conficting data.
I'll promise you, that I'll double check my posts before I'm posting them...

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No worries, I have it all sorted out now

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Hey Don.

It seems that defense cuts have forced the Danish Defense Ministery to cancel participation in the Swedish-Norwegian mobile artillery system, Archer.

Instead we will be getting the French CAESAR(at least that is what the Army wants, the current red government might cancel that as well as part of more budget cuts). The Army wants 18, but there is only money for 12, how that is to be solved and when, no-one knows. The article does not say. My guess would be 2013.

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